From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 23 12:00:40 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB7121065712 for ; Wed, 23 Sep 2009 12:00:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rpaulo@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f227.google.com (mail-bw0-f227.google.com [209.85.218.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F3B08FC1D for ; Wed, 23 Sep 2009 12:00:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz27 with SMTP id 27so452154bwz.43 for ; Wed, 23 Sep 2009 05:00:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:subject:mime-version :content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc:content-transfer-encoding :message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=t3tQAz2sPBRxBIM+p1nux0VNOSB6LnVgxwqXxpFRvsA=; b=tPGYwi7UwfW6QfoYVf1invijpreBCnIB0cpwnYF+HjiA3Lrr+ziwkvJFZ4pk0Ak7Ja bhbuQcl7g/12XjXMxUBStejggZ84/F8YqaYkxFuPSpWOao5YaThwIEanbkdHNrxmObHD BR8S1DcLDeoQeEyHDv070mpoJ+x38BQbdwDcc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=fDpV706DBG9IusHCDU8jUMYwJpN6dycQZh/Mzt5Gzu8bY7QRevhc0WLiR2tPo9dhPW dGPRwiJaXQ1gwOYHBkXK3PmTiCPie05FWRlmsqJWxOZtmIAfjGZxGJr54OyYpUCdd9aN nt5FV/+/fxQi1BxndNvKRsGp7Ror9JryQhXGI= Received: by 10.86.217.8 with SMTP id p8mr1894887fgg.73.1253705240288; Wed, 23 Sep 2009 04:27:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mac-mini.lan (bl11-193-153.dsl.telepac.pt [85.244.193.153]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 4sm273573fge.12.2009.09.23.04.27.19 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 23 Sep 2009 04:27:19 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes From: Rui Paulo In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 12:27:17 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <5311D83C-0DB0-4D10-B2AB-B61FD37178F7@gmail.com> References: <200909211203.n8LC3hhn090227@fire.js.berklix.net> <200909221027.48607.jhb@freebsd.org> To: Nate Eldredge X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 12:23:16 +0000 Cc: Alexey Shuvaev , "Julian H. Stacey" , hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: genuine cpu I386_CPU kernel support X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 12:00:40 -0000 On 22 Sep 2009, at 19:03, Nate Eldredge wrote: > On Tue, 22 Sep 2009, John Baldwin wrote: > >> My comment is to just use 4.x (seriously). A true 386 is going to >> be quite >> slow and the overhead of many things added that work well on newer >> processors >> is going to be very painful on a 386 (probably on a 486 as well). >> 4.x runs >> fine on a 386 and should support all the hardware you can stick >> into a >> machine with an 80386 CPU. > > Unless, of course, you plan to put it on a network. I doubt that > 4.x is up to date with respect to security patches. I don't know if they were all applied on 4.x, but I think at least the older ones are. -- Rui Paulo