From owner-freebsd-security@freebsd.org Sun Dec 10 18:15:47 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-security@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39D57E93E21 for ; Sun, 10 Dec 2017 18:15:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mozolevsky@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wr0-x236.google.com (mail-wr0-x236.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c0c::236]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BB86D7B173 for ; Sun, 10 Dec 2017 18:15:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mozolevsky@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wr0-x236.google.com with SMTP id y21so15382614wrc.1 for ; Sun, 10 Dec 2017 10:15:46 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=tbSqY+rTBLDlTkCAOjtNrI7mdQLUO792KCY9jn7wqPA=; b=XogAQPWJ2VRbRUBKB+bAwqNvOnDFzXv8QSlpsUyUwSbAJTZVmcOOoxLftf39P4luPw VnztGolDd5ovV933nNlfy3DLUMlcjiKzE6hexGgTcFECwk1KsiBYecsGRcSKrEpoHYTG Q4drA+eAF8mR1uGvQvjoLypUtP6zFR6Dt/VMYfR34qWwssTW9mcKI+4a0L3C8ZbUdtR4 eiwkHMniF4S1ccwEceo4sYwnpJBi2WOfX+WtvHuEv+smTVBBVSOE4jexI9gDJ5rX2VX9 aK9sqmG4mD8M1bhbIc1bB5ObFmjzGDbprNuIICzHiz1HDq5mJst8qj+SkpUUYmp2+oPK 3YKg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=tbSqY+rTBLDlTkCAOjtNrI7mdQLUO792KCY9jn7wqPA=; b=spf1E9xuCcWOxnVzrpY6/+ryw5+HRzXdSyfEKlsrcepEwtTR95CqOvEHh192X6Q0CE vFmD92BrYQRytwrlOjGMBeMDREwna3qxMZYnedKtAg2oHEcZvmu1yKBR2IXW+x6IZjzk XtXKNnziYBMmyKo12o+rD5+sv0eAAykFFlFtU5i0KUNP3yL1GKbJVl+wUrDryxYtnWRi KRBSEEagXNRgBTC2vqj1ztmqooTCFg62Uk2ztHAs+zID/1cIJ0+JU6v9nU3qQENwU3CO HKRxkx0x5wt7VzwMAeyF8Mtvlbk5UXB6NZXvQcRZo3Ng9IAnK1pK/adewo9WSw3pgcGZ MDJQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AJaThX6pcPuYoE+JiyddVzEbWLIZKc/vYC+gvgCmtDDvYlFXnBZDfuHF +Fzwk5ajIcBhVvQM/N3MOIjYtoGgKN2e2JzV5qI= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGs4zMaWwrYnvtjMKUlIKXLGDoNIulBbj8Bz+zDtEIM58DlzN/PEk+UQZNuJMpBRkpUyDZwg1eJ0SpCOvP5g3EFhUmU= X-Received: by 10.223.199.133 with SMTP id l5mr35675772wrg.20.1512929745252; Sun, 10 Dec 2017 10:15:45 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.28.90.193 with HTTP; Sun, 10 Dec 2017 10:15:04 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <97f76231-dace-10c4-cab2-08e5e0d792b5@rawbw.com> <5A2709F6.8030106@grosbein.net> <11532fe7-024d-ba14-0daf-b97282265ec6@rawbw.com> <8788fb0d-4ee9-968a-1e33-e3bd84ffb892@heuristicsystems.com.au> <20171205220849.GH9701@gmail.com> <20171205231845.5028d01d@gumby.homeunix.com> <20171210173222.GF5901@funkthat.com> <5c810101-9092-7665-d623-275c15d4612b@rawbw.com> From: Igor Mozolevsky Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2017 18:15:04 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: http subversion URLs should be discontinued in favor of https URLs To: Yuri Cc: freebsd security , RW Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.25 X-BeenThere: freebsd-security@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: "Security issues \[members-only posting\]" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2017 18:15:47 -0000 On 10 December 2017 at 18:01, Yuri wrote: > On 12/10/17 09:51, Igor Mozolevsky wrote: > >> Hypothetical MITM-bogeyman and "suits not knowing that I use FreeBSD" >> doesn't make SVN over HTTP insecure. >> > > > Read here about Alice and Bob: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alice_and_Bob > > Hypothetical characters are commonplace in security discussions. They are not "hypothetical characters," they are invented characters that are used in a threat model. But that's reframing the problem- a hypothetical threat model is very different to a real threat model. -- Igor M.