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charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2023-11-13T00:22:31.000+01:00, Greg 'groggy' Lehey = wrote: >=C2=A0On=C2=A0Sunday,=C2=A012=C2=A0November=C2=A02023=C2=A0at= =C2=A013:49:49=C2=A0+0100,=C2=A0Paul=C2=A0Floyd=C2=A0wrote: >>=C2=A0= =C2=A0On=C2=A012-11-23=C2=A011:35,=C2=A0Daniel=C2=A0Engberg=C2=A0wrote: >= >=C2=A0=C2=A0 >>>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0On=C2=A0Sunday,=C2=A012=C2=A0November= =C2=A02023=C2=A0at=C2=A09:46:18=C2=A0+0100,=C2=A0Paul=C2=A0Floyd=C2=A0wrote= : >>>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 >>>>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0MSI=C2=A0MAG=C2= =A0X670E=C2=A0Tomahawk >>>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 >>>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0The=C2=A0MSI=C2=A0board=C2=A0looks=C2=A0decent=C2=A0I=C2=A0guess,= =C2=A0the=C2=A0x16/x4/x2=C2=A0layout=C2=A0isn't >>>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0grea= t=C2=A0but >>>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 >>>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0it's=C2= =A0not=C2=A0horrible=C2=A0either=C2=A0depending=C2=A0on=C2=A0your=C2=A0use= =C2=A0case.=C2=A0Never >>>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0looked=C2=A0into >>>=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 >>>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0their=C2=A0lineup=C2=A0due= =C2=A0to=C2=A0lack=C2=A0of=C2=A0a=C2=A0decent=C2=A0builtin=C2=A0NIC.=C2= =A0You=C2=A0can=C2=A0get=C2=A0a >>>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0separate >>>=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 >>>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0one=C2=A0but=C2=A0it's=C2= =A0still=C2=A0an=C2=A0additional=C2=A0cost=C2=A0and=C2=A0takes=C2=A0of= =C2=A0at=C2=A0least=C2=A0one >>>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0PCIe=C2=A0slot. >= =C2=A0 >=C2=A0FWIW,=C2=A0I've=C2=A0just=C2=A0got=C2=A0a=C2=A0machine= =C2=A0with=C2=A0this=C2=A0motherboard.=C2=A0It=C2=A0seemed=C2=A0the >= =C2=A0 >=C2=A0best=C2=A0option=C2=A0available=C2=A0to=C2=A0me=C2=A0at= =C2=A0the=C2=A0time,=C2=A0and=C2=A0I=C2=A0haven't=C2=A0had=C2=A0any >= =C2=A0issues >=C2=A0 >=C2=A0with=C2=A0it.=C2=A0Yes,=C2=A0the=C2=A0silly= =C2=A0NIC=C2=A0(where=C2=A0do=C2=A0you=C2=A0find=C2=A02.5=C2=A0Gb/s=C2= =A0hubs?)=C2=A0is >=C2=A0 >=C2=A0irritating,=C2=A0but=C2=A0I=C2=A0need= =C2=A02=C2=A0NICs=C2=A0anyway,=C2=A0so=C2=A0putting=C2=A0in=C2=A0a=C2=A0sec= ond=C2=A0wasn't >=C2=A0an >=C2=A0 >=C2=A0issue.=C2=A0I=C2=A0also= =C2=A0couldn't=C2=A0find=C2=A0any=C2=A0motherboard=C2=A0that=C2=A0fitted= =C2=A0the=C2=A0other >=C2=A0 >=C2=A0requirements=C2=A0and=C2=A0didn't= =C2=A0have=C2=A0this=C2=A0NIC. >=C2=A0 >=C2=A0Greg >=C2=A0 >=C2= =A0-- >=C2=A0 >=C2=A0Sent=C2=A0from=C2=A0my=C2=A0desktop=C2=A0computer.= >=C2=A0 >=C2=A0See=C2=A0complete=C2=A0headers=C2=A0for=C2=A0address= =C2=A0and=C2=A0phone=C2=A0numbers. >=C2=A0 >=C2=A0This=C2=A0message= =C2=A0is=C2=A0digitally=C2=A0signed.=C2=A0If=C2=A0your=C2=A0Microsoft=C2= =A0mail=C2=A0program >=C2=A0 >=C2=A0reports=C2=A0problems,=C2=A0please= =C2=A0read=C2=A0http://lemis.com/broken-MUA.php Hi, Nice! So the = sata controller gets initialized correctly even on newer BIOS versions? D= oes the Realtek NIC work ootb or do you need to use the driver in ports t= ree? 2.5G switches aren't that uncommon these days, https://www.zyxe= l.com/global/en/products/switch/5-8-port-2-5gbe-unmanaged-switch-mg100-seri= es https://www.zyxel.com/global/en/products/switch/12-port-unmanaged-m= ulti-gigabit-switch-with-2-port-2-5g-and-2-port-10g-sfp-xgs1010-12 htt= ps://www.zyxel.com/global/en/products/switch/12-port-web-managed-multi-giga= bit-switch-with-2-port-2-5g-and-2-port-10g-sfp-xgs1210-12 https://www.= zyxel.com/global/en/products/switch/12-port-web-managed-multi-gigabit-switc= h-includes-3-port-10g-and-1-port-10g-sfp-xgs1250-12 https://www.zyxel.= com/global/en/products/switch/24-port-2-5g-multi-gig-lite-l3-smart-managed-= switch-with-6-10g-uplinks-xmg1930-series https://www.netgear.com/busin= ess/wired/switches/unmanaged/ms105/ https://geizhals.de/?cat=3Dswitchg= i&xf=3D13266_2G5 Just to mention a few :) Best regards, Dani= el --_=_swift_1699854370_151ed1b5b690d6abc2951de760cba95c_=_ Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On 2023-11-13T00:22:31.000+01:00, Greg 'groggy' Lehey <grog@FreeBSD= .org> wrote:
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On Sunday, 12 November 2023 at 13:49:49 +0100, Paul Floyd wrote:
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  On 12-11-23 11:35, Daniel Engberg w=
rote:
 
 On S=
unday, 12 November 2023 at  9:46:18 +0100, Paul Floyd wrote:
 
 MSI MAG X670E Tomahawk
 
 The MSI board looks decent I gue=
ss, the x16/x4/x2 layout isn't great but
 it's not horrible e=
ither depending on your use case. Never looked into
 their li=
neup due to lack of a decent builtin NIC. You can get a separate
<=
div> one but it's still an additional cost and takes of at least one PCIe s=
lot.

FWIW, I've jus= t got a machine with this motherboard. It seemed the
best op= tion available to me at the time, and I haven't had any issues
with it. Yes, the silly NIC (where do you find 2.5 Gb/s hubs?) is
irritating, but I need 2 NICs anyway, so putting in a second wasn't= an
issue. I also couldn't find any motherboard that fitted = the other
requirements and didn't have this NIC.

Greg
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Nice!= So the sata controller gets initialized correctly even on newer BIOS versi= ons? Does the Realtek NIC work ootb or do you need to use the driver in por= ts tree? 2.5G switches aren't that uncommon these days,

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=

Just to mention a few :)

Best regards= ,
Daniel

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