From owner-svn-src-all@freebsd.org Sun May 20 02:44:10 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-all@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87AA5EEF1CF for ; Sun, 20 May 2018 02:44:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: from mail-io0-x244.google.com (mail-io0-x244.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c06::244]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 176D46ACE6 for ; Sun, 20 May 2018 02:44:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: by mail-io0-x244.google.com with SMTP id e12-v6so10617134iob.8 for ; Sat, 19 May 2018 19:44:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=cg+t2999BGuB9k7ChEmYFTir8Pc/UbKNqFNPisC0F9o=; b=eJhU4slrc6VVPa67FwDQhHWndOEGsKIF0MUVF11yhkFCv35S49QFRjL5S5v9vICVdf A5aDLLZ1pHvQxz6GTSO1TyNmDUjZ6//7tPztWzAyUBKV1uiDff0NSQlZ3ZqQ+7pjsuX1 4syAVCnKscbJux3gUuSvyTx6j8A1F67YhB5iT+k4kroSIueAFlVSp2A+IWntGhIHJz07 BHWldpA066vMVHfE0x7rykXBom7YBlKOaHlzwAKOMKs0bL4TWlXXeJVJwausy8ATORa7 Ftz82UYxpipRv7q+AM2Dnti8UHn31StoEXTZbtOnh2vrLiWLPQtZ2QSXoNcBGXkimYXK hPmA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=cg+t2999BGuB9k7ChEmYFTir8Pc/UbKNqFNPisC0F9o=; b=CunT/HHn6Mu4GRRCan7F74W9MXcGlVNwnsehjbPqVFx/oWkI29Okp17RFZqtnaB/H1 FaESjcDp0OkuVnB3Ef/XqhLYYHLXyQzTApnXPfsq78EUlDxFZvQ8/79NPdKqO59BF00d jLToLSACDL+cLVUgtq85jrEplg3FXIyffvmmMTxPrecsNPv4rIwQ1Kstyl8a+ZH/rnEn m6VJjXc4IGb41Z7XDKLwvzn4Pn4K0yJu1rH5J2eC0DFZjm+OJx4mls8k3AMqaoH5yH3E oot8Jx3Hlx6vemK7AbQaf/aZZRGjH3IOY2K3qal3VWqFxVE73WkRcQEzqFm3ZAXZ/cT4 OZTw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALKqPwenkj2EplzNfvS79NQx/RBoceqBK0Pc0PGCj3NAc50ns5+WotEm IaRjOzMAJObKoKMoZuDzQLExgGvP8w4G6uhvRHGwaQ== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AB8JxZpg4TEajuWDbnETJNIQyU+wD2OL9tsnKv09nv5Shf37bPTQs+xw8Efr4EGBAFxztvXxYNW8hC8sAWOnKH/7b50= X-Received: by 2002:a6b:d404:: with SMTP id l4-v6mr16744372iog.37.1526784249367; Sat, 19 May 2018 19:44:09 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <201805191729.w4JHTvOo032116@repo.freebsd.org> <201805191945.w4JJjMlk017155@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net> <6814.1526761972@critter.freebsd.dk> <637a69d0-fbc9-552b-49fd-9d029eb592f4@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <637a69d0-fbc9-552b-49fd-9d029eb592f4@FreeBSD.org> From: Warner Losh Date: Sat, 19 May 2018 20:43:57 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: svn commit: r333880 - head/sys/kern To: Pedro Giffuni Cc: Poul-Henning Kamp , "Rodney W. Grimes" , Warner Losh , src-committers , svn-src-all@freebsd.org, svn-src-head@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.26 X-BeenThere: svn-src-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: "SVN commit messages for the entire src tree \(except for " user" and " projects" \)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 May 2018 02:44:10 -0000 On Sat, May 19, 2018, 8:40 PM Pedro Giffuni wrote: > > On 19/05/2018 16:02, Warner Losh wrote: > > > > On Sat, May 19, 2018 at 2:32 PM, Poul-Henning Kamp > wrote: > >> -------- >> In message > cD5+V5Br+evussw@mail.gmail.com> >> , Warner Losh writes: >> >> >> > Log: >> >> > Restore the all rights reserved language. >> >> "All Rights Reserved" is boilerplate from the old "Buenos Aires" >> copyright convention, (a purely N+S American affair) and it lost >> all meaning and relevance for UCB when USA ratified the Berne >> Convention 60 years ago. >> > > The US ratified the Berne Convention in 1989, which falls in the middle of > the 4.x BSD releases... Relevant for 4.3, but not 4.4. > > >> The final Buenos Aires signatory joined Berne a couple of decades >> ago, rendering the convention null and void, and therefore this >> boilerplate has no meaning or relevance for anybody. >> > > Right, I get that. However, someone removed it. Even though it's useless > at this point, I don't believe we can remove it. > > For the record, and with the usual disclaimer that I am *not* a lawyer ... > > I attended a talk from a lawyer from Google that explained adding the "All > Rights Reserved" line didn't mean what it intended to mean previously (or > much at all) but that removing it was intended as having a meaning. In sum, > and while I didn't completely grasp the issue is not clear all lawyers > would agree on removing the line. > > For old code it is what is, but perhaps the effort should be done for new > code, starting here: > > > https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/committers-guide/pref-license.html > Looks like i missed one. I'll fix it. > Feel free to take it to core and a real lawyer :). > Been there done that already. That's why we have rehashed this like 4 times now... Warner >