From owner-svn-src-head@FreeBSD.ORG  Sat Mar 22 05:32:10 2014
Return-Path: <owner-svn-src-head@FreeBSD.ORG>
Delivered-To: svn-src-head@freebsd.org
Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org
 [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1])
 (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits))
 (No client certificate requested)
 by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E77D6725;
 Sat, 22 Mar 2014 05:32:10 +0000 (UTC)
Received: from mail.machdep.com (mail.machdep.com [195.91.211.41])
 (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits))
 (No client certificate requested)
 by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9C3BB354;
 Sat, 22 Mar 2014 05:32:10 +0000 (UTC)
Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=machdep.com)
 by mail.machdep.com with smtp (Exim 4.82 (FreeBSD))
 (envelope-from <br@machdep.com>)
 id 1WREVJ-000683-G5; Sat, 22 Mar 2014 09:29:57 +0400
Received: by machdep.com (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1001
 br@machdep.com; Sat, 22 Mar 2014 09:29:57 +0400 (MSK)
Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2014 09:29:57 +0400
From: Ruslan Bukin <br@FreeBSD.org>
To: Andrew Turner <andrew@fubar.geek.nz>
Subject: Re: svn commit: r263424 - head/sys/arm/conf
Message-ID: <20140322052957.GA23556@machdep.com>
References: <201403201701.s2KH1L84024044@svn.freebsd.org>
 <20140321094316.76ccf459@bender.Home>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Content-Disposition: inline
In-Reply-To: <20140321094316.76ccf459@bender.Home>
User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.22 (2013-10-16)
Cc: svn-src-head@freebsd.org, svn-src-all@freebsd.org,
 src-committers@freebsd.org
X-BeenThere: svn-src-head@freebsd.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17
Precedence: list
List-Id: SVN commit messages for the src tree for head/-current
 <svn-src-head.freebsd.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/options/svn-src-head>,
 <mailto:svn-src-head-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/svn-src-head/>
List-Post: <mailto:svn-src-head@freebsd.org>
List-Help: <mailto:svn-src-head-request@freebsd.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/svn-src-head>,
 <mailto:svn-src-head-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2014 05:32:11 -0000

On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 09:43:16AM +0000, Andrew Turner wrote:
> On Thu, 20 Mar 2014 17:01:21 +0000 (UTC)
> Ruslan Bukin <br@FreeBSD.org> wrote:
> 
> > Author: br
> > Date: Thu Mar 20 17:01:21 2014
> > New Revision: 263424
> > URL: http://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/263424
> > 
> > Log:
> >   Disable debugging by default.
> 
> I don't like this on head. I have found a number of issues that were
> hidden because the kernel config most people were using for development
> had WITNESS, INVARIANTS and DIAGNOSTIC disabled.
> 

I think arm codebase is so small, so every commit is like
a huge evolutional update...
Is anyone merging every commit to stable? no
so I think arm users prefered to run -current, not stable.
(say they need fb driver for chromebook).

Developer can set debug locally any time, but users no idea
about debugging is ON, so they get running slow system,
and then got disappointed.

-Ruslan