From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 10 09:42:19 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B3F91065673; Thu, 10 Jul 2008 09:42:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Marek.Woloszyn@comp-css.pl) Received: from mta1.comp-css.pl (mta1.comp-css.pl [91.198.145.67]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A41C38FC1D; Thu, 10 Jul 2008 09:42:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Marek.Woloszyn@comp-css.pl) Received: from (unknown [10.3.1.65]) by mta1.comp-css.pl with smtp id 4619_bd503f84_4e60_11dd_bb9d_0019b9f40f38; Thu, 10 Jul 2008 11:15:28 +0200 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_fkJQVTcv3b6RSVPYTv/B9w)" Received: from comp.waw.pl ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.comp.waw.pl (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-3.01 (built Jul 12 2007; 32bit)) with ESMTP id <0K3S00K87AYEWS30@mail.comp.waw.pl>; Thu, 10 Jul 2008 11:42:14 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [10.3.1.67] by mail.comp.waw.pl (mshttpd); Thu, 10 Jul 2008 11:42:14 +0200 From: Marek Woloszyn To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Message-id: <4884777a784ee096.4875f596@comp.waw.pl> Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 11:42:14 +0200 X-Mailer: Sun Java(tm) System Messenger Express 6.3-3.01 (built Jul 12 2007; 32bit) Content-language: en X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: grehan@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD on MPC8349 (e300 core) X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 09:42:19 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_fkJQVTcv3b6RSVPYTv/B9w) Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Content-disposition: inline MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" =3Cdiv class=3D=22moz-text-flowed=22 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tried= increasing the size of the hash table =3F That is a simple=3Cbr=3Eworka= round=2E As you may have seen=2C there is no facility for overflow of=3C= br=3Ethe secondary hash bucket=3A that is something that could be added=2E= =3Cbr=3E=3Cbr=3E=3C/blockquote=3EYes=2E We have already tried that=2E It= helps=2C but the PTE=26nbsp=3B usage distribution in PTEG table is stil= l non-uniform=2E For normal PTEG table size the secondary hash bucket hi= ts PTEGs that are already filled by=26nbsp=3B the primary hash bucket an= d then we get a panic=2E=3Cbr=3E=3Cblockquote type=3D=22cite=22=3E=3Cblo= ckquote type=3D=22cite=22=3EUnfortunately we still have problems with th= e system=2E We experience=3Cbr=3Erandom processes crashes when the syste= m is starting=2E It happens=3Cbr=3Eapproximately once for 20 boots=2E If= the system does not crash at the=3Cbr=3Estartup=2C everything works fin= e=2E We do not know where to look for the=3Cbr=3Esolution=3A pmap=3F vm=3F= 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