From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 21 20:11:19 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from BSDpc.geek4food.org (adsl-216-103-105-71.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [216.103.105.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCF0D37BB18 for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 20:11:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andy@geek4food.org) Received: from mega.geek4food.org (mega.geek4food.org [192.168.1.57]) by BSDpc.geek4food.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4FD03F2; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 04:11:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mega.geek4food.org (localhost.geek4food.org [127.0.0.1]) by mega.geek4food.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA31479; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 20:11:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andy@geek4food.org) Message-Id: <200003220411.UAA31479@mega.geek4food.org> To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: Brad Knowles , David Murphy , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Voxware is toast. Get used to it. (Re: Suggestions for improving newpcm performance?) In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 21 Mar 2000 11:25:45 PST." <14317.953666745@zippy.cdrom.com> Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 20:11:06 -0800 From: Andy Sparrow Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Your message dated: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 11:25:45 PST >> I can't speak for the relative quality of 4.0 versus 3.0, but >> I'll take your word for it. However, if you're going to compare 4.0 >> to 3.4, then I think a perfect counter-example is the message that >> got this whole thread started -- voxware. > >I don't understand where voxware comes into this. As many people have >already noted (repeatedly), voxware was NOT removed from 4.0, it's >purely a 5.0 issue. Yes, but, as was pointed out on the thread that this TFH seems to have erupted from (in -multimedia) for some of us, it's getting pretty difficult to use voxware on 4.x. And some of us (primarily those with AWE hardware wavetable cards) would like to continue using it, as it provides significant functionality for which there is no replacement available (as yet). However, on 4.x, the AWE support no longer works, because the necessary 'pnp' command in 'userconfig' to prod the "magic" (e.g. hidden) AWE registers has been ripped out[1]. Furthermore, some of us with integrated Vibra16 chipsets on the mobo find that these are no longer usable with voxware[2], thus forcing us to decide between voxware/AWE/3.x and pcm/4.x. This is a particularly gnarly choice if your box with said integrated Vibra16 is SMP, you run NFS and wish to use Linux emulation etc., as all these things are improving much more rapidly in 4.x than they are in 3.x... Cheers, AS [1] Actually, I don't fully understand why this happened either - it seemed like a very nice feature to be able to force some miscreant Plug'n'Pray device into using a known, "safe" configuration to me. [2] Apparently, this is expected behaviour, solution is to use 'pcm' instead. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message