From owner-freebsd-chat Thu Jul 6 16:58:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.osd.bsdi.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF96437BA34; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 16:58:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.osd.bsdi.com) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.osd.bsdi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA53085; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 16:58:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.osd.bsdi.com) To: Brett Glass Cc: Narvi , Dann Lunsford , chat@FreeBSD.ORG, advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: No port of Opera? (Was: ((FreeBSD : Linux) :: (OS/2 : Windows))) In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 06 Jul 2000 10:44:17 MDT." <4.3.2.7.2.20000706103005.00e05660@localhost> Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 16:58:22 -0700 Message-ID: <53082.962927902@localhost> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I've said it before, and I'll say it again: The correct strategy is not to > emulate a competitive OS, *ever*. This thread is as silly now as it was the first time it came up. Read my lips: Nobody is ever going to remove the linux compatability code, it's too damn useful, end of discussion. You can, of course, choose to totally disagree with this assertion and rant on for 300 or more messages on the topic if you so decide, we cannot stop you. Whether you choose to do so or not, however, nobody is going to remove the linux compatability code and it will continue to be maintained until such time as Linux goes closed-source and screws up the APIs so badly that they cannot be effectively reverse-engineered or otherwise emulated. Period. You might just as well attempt to repeal the laws of gravity. You can, and in fact do, also totally disagree with this as a strategy and can pontificate at great length about your views on how to properly support/evangelise/encourage the freebsd native API, how ignorant we are in our insistence on supporting the linux API in any way, shape or form or otherwise attempt to continue to fight an entirely losing battle to somehow "desupport Linux compatability" in FreeBSD. None of that will change the fact that it's a fight you've already lost well in advance and honestly, if you have any common sense at all, you'll save your fingers and our mailboxes by not refighting and relosing it all over again. The users like and use it and that means it's not going away, also period. Not that I expect our very own Don Quixote and his donkey to resist tilting at this particular windmill again, at least not without firing at least a few shots at us for "our unbelievable short-sightedness" (or some such variant on the above), but I suppose I can dream. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message