Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2023 22:43:43 -0600 From: Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> To: John Baldwin <jhb@freebsd.org> Cc: Mark Millard <marklmi@yahoo.com>, freebsd-arch <freebsd-arch@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Future of 32-bit platforms (including i386) Message-ID: <CANCZdfoJqm3ULK2rrb2M9f0jwzMrR1ijneKGf4ZzPA_3tVTxdA@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <07405397-366b-9171-0144-9b22caa7868d@FreeBSD.org> References: <CE3CC648-9409-426F-9707-A4E946E9A6FC.ref@yahoo.com> <CE3CC648-9409-426F-9707-A4E946E9A6FC@yahoo.com> <07405397-366b-9171-0144-9b22caa7868d@FreeBSD.org>
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[-- Attachment #1 --] On Thu, Aug 3, 2023 at 10:34 PM John Baldwin <jhb@freebsd.org> wrote: > On 8/3/23 2:36 PM, Mark Millard wrote: > > John Baldwin <jhb_at_FreeBSD.org> wrote on > > Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2023 19:57:08 UTC : > > > >> On 7/27/23 10:49 AM, shurd@FreeBSD.org wrote: > >>> On 2023-05-24 01:35, Emmanuel Vadot wrote: > >>>> On Tue, 23 May 2023 16:46:51 -0700 > >>>> John Baldwin <jhb@FreeBSD.org> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> On 4/27/23 10:19 AM, John Baldwin wrote: > >>>>>> . . . > >> > >> It's not just about make tinderbox, it is also about keeping platforms > >> viable. One big example is that we probably need to start supporting the > >> use of rust in the base system in some form in the not too distant > >> future, but rust isn't supported on armv7 on FreeBSD (and someone would > >> need to do the work to make that happen). > > > > I'm confused about the "isn't supported on armv7 on FreeBSD" > > claim: > > Please see https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=254853 > as an example. According to that bug at least rustc is not doable > under qemu-user which is how armv7 packages are built. > I'l need to test this again. A number of interesting bugs have been fixed in upstream. Also, I thought we'd shifted building armv7 packages on an aarch64 server that can runs 32-bit jails... Warner [-- Attachment #2 --] <div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Aug 3, 2023 at 10:34 PM John Baldwin <<a href="mailto:jhb@freebsd.org">jhb@freebsd.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">On 8/3/23 2:36 PM, Mark Millard wrote:<br> > John Baldwin <jhb_at_FreeBSD.org> wrote on<br> > Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2023 19:57:08 UTC :<br> > <br> >> On 7/27/23 10:49 AM, shurd@FreeBSD.org wrote:<br> >>> On 2023-05-24 01:35, Emmanuel Vadot wrote:<br> >>>> On Tue, 23 May 2023 16:46:51 -0700<br> >>>> John Baldwin <jhb@FreeBSD.org> wrote:<br> >>>><br> >>>>> On 4/27/23 10:19 AM, John Baldwin wrote:<br> >>>>>> . . .<br> >><br> >> It's not just about make tinderbox, it is also about keeping platforms<br> >> viable. One big example is that we probably need to start supporting the<br> >> use of rust in the base system in some form in the not too distant<br> >> future, but rust isn't supported on armv7 on FreeBSD (and someone would<br> >> need to do the work to make that happen).<br> > <br> > I'm confused about the "isn't supported on armv7 on FreeBSD"<br> > claim:<br> <br> Please see <a href="https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=254853" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=254853</a><br>; as an example. According to that bug at least rustc is not doable<br> under qemu-user which is how armv7 packages are built.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I'l need to test this again. A number of interesting bugs have been fixed</div><div>in upstream.</div><div><br></div><div>Also, I thought we'd shifted building armv7 packages on an aarch64</div><div>server that can runs 32-bit jails... <br></div><div><br></div><div>Warner<br></div></div></div>
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