From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 1 14:11:45 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18E3216A4CE for ; Fri, 1 Oct 2004 14:11:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from s1.stradamotorsports.com (ip30.gte215.dsl-acs2.sea.iinet.com [209.20.215.30]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8193D43D5E for ; Fri, 1 Oct 2004 14:11:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jcw@highperformance.net) Received: from [192.168.1.16] ([192.168.1.16])i91EBd8m031576; Fri, 1 Oct 2004 07:11:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jcw@highperformance.net) Date: Fri, 01 Oct 2004 07:11:40 -0700 From: "Jason C. Wells" To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=F8rgrav?= Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: <61D1B42DE744CC8F770302FB@[192.168.1.16]> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.1.5 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.8 required=4.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,MIME_LONG_LINE_QP,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES version=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ACPI Flakiness / Loader X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Oct 2004 14:11:45 -0000 --On Friday, October 01, 2004 9:24 AM +0200 Dag-Erling Sm=F8rgrav=20 wrote: > I hope you realize that 5.2.1 is a nine months old development > preview. Actually, I didn't realize. I had been avoiding 5X. It has been easy to = simply stick with -stable so I haven't paid attention. I selected 5.2.1 as = the most current non-beta. The new development branch tagging paradigm=20 still has me scratching my head when I try to determine the maturity of the = code. > If only things were so simple! The plain fact is that most computers > manufactured today, especially laptops and high-end servers, won't > work properly without ACPI. Ah! I didn't realize that as many or more computers won't boot without=20 ACPI, as won't boot with ACPI. The docs read like ACPI is just not ready. > As for your troubles with disabling ACPI: the procedure to do so is > clearly described in the documentation, and on a stock 5.2.1 install, > it's as simple as pressing 2 at the boot menu. I was aware of this. The selection doesn't persist across reboots though. As far as documentation goes, what I didn't see documented in the man pages = or the handbook is how that boot menu interacts with device.hints,=20 loader.conf and what settings have precedence. I don't see where the=20 documents say that the device.hints override the menu selection or vice=20 versa. I wasn't sure if I had to tweak Forth code to prevent the enabling=20 of ACPI. I do see that Matt Olander has shown me to edit device.hints. I'll do that = and be happy. Nice to see you again! I was wondering who might still be active. Later, Jason