From owner-freebsd-chat Mon Aug 25 15:44:46 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id PAA17349 for chat-outgoing; Mon, 25 Aug 1997 15:44:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fps.biblos.unal.edu.co ([168.176.37.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id PAA17314 for ; Mon, 25 Aug 1997 15:44:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unalmodem.usc.unal.edu.co by fps.biblos.unal.edu.co (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA23488; Mon, 25 Aug 1997 17:40:07 -0500 Message-Id: <34022579.677D@fps.biblos.unal.edu.co> Date: Mon, 25 Aug 1997 17:38:31 -0700 From: "Pedro Giffuni S," Organization: Universidad Nacional de Colombia X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold [it] (Win16; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Peter Korsten Cc: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ATT Unix for Windows ! References: <199708251245.WAA23142@oznet11.ozemail.com.au> <19970825204932.12036@grendel.IAEhv.nl> <34020362.7DB1@fps.biblos.unal.edu.co> <19970825224258.55928@grendel.IAEhv.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Peter Korsten wrote: > > > Well, at least they have something visual. Do you know of any handy > tool to patch a program together that happens to run with FreeBSD? > That runs with X too? For the same price as VC++? > Search in the announce-list: Parasoft (I think) was planning to release their excellent products for FreeBSD, depending on how many people were interested. There's also Cygnus' "Source Navigator", perhaps if more FreeBSD users were interested they would release it for FreeBSD, but the Linux version should work. > > Perhaps I can spend a week and look for all kinds of tools that > have some, the same, or even more functionality than VC++, but in > my case, it's cheaper to buy VC++. And it comes with manuals and > a great online help, instead of some info files nobody but Gnu > uses. > I have always seen Borland's products as far more interesting than M$, but I admit I don't like the GNU dev. environment either. Show me a free development environment for Windows that has all the GNU features and I'll say we are even. > Of course, I find MS's marketing strategy - either buying or crushing > the competition in about _every_ field in computing - disturbing, to > say the least. But they do make decent software. Maybe not all of it, > but much of it. > I saw an article in Newsweek where Moritz explained they didn't care to release software in "Beta" state. They know about the problems, release the software and two months later they release a fix. If you haven't got the message...it's a matter of business, quality doesn't have anything to do with it, and their tools reflect their philosophy perfectly. > - Peter Pedro.