From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 16 11:11:32 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A333C106566C for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 11:11:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 619968FC0A for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 11:11:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-214-70.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.214.70]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id A81EB8E; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 13:11:24 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q8GBBNna002710; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 13:11:24 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 13:11:23 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Robert Bonomi Message-Id: <20120916131123.94b85d72.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <201209152132.q8FLWgIj022329@mail.r-bonomi.com> References: <201209152132.q8FLWgIj022329@mail.r-bonomi.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 8.1 -> 8.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 11:11:32 -0000 On Sat, 15 Sep 2012 16:32:42 -0500 (CDT), Robert Bonomi wrote: > > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Sep 15 11:58:42 2012 > > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > From: Michael Powell > > Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2012 12:56:49 -0400 > > Subject: Re: 8.1 -> 8.3 > > > > Laszlo Danielisz wrote: > > > > > Hey Guys, > > > > > > If I want to upgrade from 8.1-RELEASE-p11 to 8.3 do I need to also update > > > installed packages? One more thing: by when has 8.3 release maintenance? > > > Maybe I'm blind but I haven't found the date on freebsd.org > > > > > > > When updating within a major release version such as 8.1 to 8.x the ABI is > > stable and remains the same so it is not necessary to update the third party > > packages/ports. > > Note: this is _generally_ accurate. There are *rare* exceptions -- things > that have to be compiled against against the actual kernel in use, because > they go rummaging through kernel internal data structures. > > Historically, lsof wa one such program. > > Such programs tended to have *LOUD* caveats in the build documentation, > and run-time checks for kernel version consistency. > > In 30+ years as a sysadmin, I think I've only encoundered abouut _four_ > such programs. There may be one addition: Sometimes, programs originating from ports become part of the OS (the base system). If I remember correctly, that happened in the 7.x branch with xz (becoming /usr/bin/xz). In such cases, it's good to revier the related ports. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...