From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Dec 3 08:19:01 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA25745 for hackers-outgoing; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 08:19:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from etinc.com (et-gw-fr1.etinc.com [204.141.244.98]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA25738 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 08:18:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from ntws (ntws.etinc.com [204.141.95.142]) by etinc.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id LAA03015; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 11:22:04 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.32.19961203111854.00b37100@etinc.com> X-Sender: dennis@etinc.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Tue, 03 Dec 1996 11:18:57 -0500 To: "Thomas D.G. Sandford" From: dennis Subject: Re: FreeBSD / Wine / MSOffice Cc: hackers@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk At 01:12 PM 12/3/96 +0000, you wrote: >During a discussion on comp.emulators.ms-windows.wine about running MS Office >applications under FreeBSD/Wine, Linus Torvalds sent me the following email. > >I am posting it here (with his permission) in the hopes that someone may be >able to do something about it (if it is not already in 2.2 / -current - I >am still using 2.1.5-R). > >Please note - I don't subscribe to -hackers, so if you want me to see a >reply, please cc it to me. > > >----- Forwarded message from Linus Torvalds ----- >From: Linus Torvalds >Date: Fri, 29 Nov 1996 12:51:01 +0200 >Message-Id: <199611291051.MAA03824@linux.cs.Helsinki.FI> >To: t.d.g.sandford@prds-grn.demon.co.uk >Subject: Re: FreeBSD - MS Office >Newsgroups: comp.emulators.ms-windows.wine >In-Reply-To: <57il2h$in@prds-grn.demon.co.uk> >References: <3298ED79.41C67EA6@nz.eds.com> <57diu3$8t@prds-grn.demon.co.uk> <329B9FEB.41C67EA6@nz.eds.com> > >In article <57il2h$in@prds-grn.demon.co.uk> you write: >> >>FreeBSD only makes a limited number of user LDT's available. You get this >>message when they run out (as well as if you have failed to build an >>appropriate kernel). Exhausting the LDT's has however, in my experience, >>always been the result of a memory leak in wine. > >Note that Linux used to do that too. Then the Wabi people told me that >real applications need more LDT's. > >So if FreeBSD wants to serve all real applications, it needs eventually >to expand the LDT. Right now the problems _may_ be due to leaks in Wine, >but one day they are going to be real.. > > Linus What hard times are these when "Windows applications:" are the definition of "real" applications. Dennis