From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jan 14 8: 3:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from blackhelicopters.org (geburah.blackhelicopters.org [209.69.178.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDCEB14E8C; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 08:03:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by blackhelicopters.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA51996; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 11:02:58 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mwlucas) From: Michael Lucas Message-Id: <200001141602.LAA51996@blackhelicopters.org> Subject: Re: Making sure /var/tmp/vi.recover exists during reboot In-Reply-To: <7041.947863163@axl.noc.iafrica.com> from Sheldon Hearn at "Jan 14, 2000 5:19:23 pm" To: sheldonh@uunet.co.za (Sheldon Hearn) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 11:02:58 -0500 (EST) Cc: khera@kciLink.com, ady@warpnet.ro, trond@ramstind.gtf.ol.no, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG A *lot* of us have local administration procedures that are inappropriate elsewhere, but are proper in a local context (or are wrong, but they want or need to do anyway). My laptop, for example, has a lot of o+rw permissions in /dev, /mnt owned by mwlucas... you get the idea. I don't want to become root to mount a CD or hotsync my pilot, and my laptop isn't sitting behind a T1. Ditto for my desktop system. I'm not going to suggest to the Project that they run /dev/MAKEDEV with a nightmare umask just so I personally don't have to "chmod 666 /dev/cuaa0" after every make world. The point is that system administrators, whether on big-ass systems or little boxes, have to have local procedures to deal with local quirks. I have shell scripts to handle these changes for me. Simple shell scripts, easy-to-write shell scripts, that handle my localizations. FreeBSD's wdc driver does not support CD-Rom configured as a slave without a primary. This is because it is a violation of the IDE specs. This strikes me as more of the same. Now please, can we let this die? We all make suggestions that make people go "bleah". ==ml > On Fri, 14 Jan 2000 10:12:54 EST, Vivek Khera wrote: > > > If you don't like the warning, just delete the recovery procedure > > rather than creating the directory. It does no good for you to try to > > recover something that will never be there. > > Exactly. The only thing that comes out of this patch is we support > an administrative mistake that leads naive users to believe that vi > recovery on reboot is going to work as expected. > > This is a stupid idea. I wish the person who came up with it would just > acknowledge that he's doing something inappropriate and move on, rather > than insisting that the rest of us introduce a bad idea into our systems > to support his bad practice. > > Ciao, > Sheldon. > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message