From nobody Tue Dec 2 19:36:51 2025 X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4dLWHT5JL7z6J24J for ; Tue, 02 Dec 2025 19:36:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 0100019ae091540a-5eb428ef-f974-42e4-a0ae-0a12774a3b4b-000000@amazonses.com) Received: from a8-52.smtp-out.amazonses.com (a8-52.smtp-out.amazonses.com [54.240.8.52]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4dLWHS63VSz3s1n for ; Tue, 02 Dec 2025 19:36:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 0100019ae091540a-5eb428ef-f974-42e4-a0ae-0a12774a3b4b-000000@amazonses.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/simple; s=vnqrkfnvu6csdl6mwgk5t6ix3nnepx57; d=tarsnap.com; t=1764704212; h=Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Subject:To:References:From:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; bh=BU8mhKC4A7NOF5ZibQbyK1JkwZRLLTKk8Lsr62/h8hs=; b=WN1SWQDSwl/sXQi5a1novV+MQL0wq0FPZxbVDJ+51paTqxDl0Cmm6IhOhnauDtHg i9UXohBJxnp48ZKWz9SKXnnxZFcnTXS/XcFLlNbzmvdYeIs/Byt4ptD9LLm+4NjLeFx Gd++TcipyeAwtjKnnx5+HY0rBkbAArNFOoLAk4BA= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/simple; s=6gbrjpgwjskckoa6a5zn6fwqkn67xbtw; d=amazonses.com; t=1764704212; h=Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Subject:To:References:From:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Feedback-ID; bh=BU8mhKC4A7NOF5ZibQbyK1JkwZRLLTKk8Lsr62/h8hs=; b=YID1o1AZDX90AKWrRDn18vCSWTwLc2zwN4L4DgwZHNOmOIVY6JHkZOnRDXUDBYZ3 Emenu9hibvRhQ0lgER0pxrGV21otY99SZ6kOCx1TOhWnkdkIE/DMRZiBp+HIDP5ZPZc OLNDV3iFoHLqUi1lDxCpB7IFbAbk1GmHzpg1CAHg= Message-ID: <0100019ae091540a-5eb428ef-f974-42e4-a0ae-0a12774a3b4b-000000@email.amazonses.com> Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2025 19:36:51 +0000 List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-stable List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: pkgbasify on 14.3 or on 15.0? 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Hausen" , FreeBSD-STABLE Mailing List References: <732A2394-8F18-4802-8CAC-3D724DF2A31A@punkt.de> Content-Language: en-US From: Colin Percival Autocrypt: addr=cperciva@tarsnap.com; keydata= xsFNBGWMSrYBEACdWRqDn3B3SKO7IG0/fGHYtfs26f3Q5QeAcasy1fQLniwGQWn5rlILhbCD K/jdNoDm5Zxq20eqyffoDNObCjnHgg4tGANdi+RmDy+7CDpE789H8dss9y7Pt5DlGGAXQQnt hxush3EYS/Ctprd9UUL/lzOOLOU1aNtzB84tNrJBtcJmL7OYHfyTSNFxvedqJrrasejIQOLI t/DQ89BPzz+vsKHz7FJPXh3fsVkzLA00DJYcfkgxyABfJNA7U6yMwd4DVSdx/SsvfIDMVXnu UXCXswo106WPZbYGlZPpq0wW6iibtTerJix+8AeuwXvl9O1p8yESK4ErkIxCnmghTSz+pdzj z/6xBRkdDM9VdZ0r+CzsaNXMpDOzFuKyjaiYBdgCLljbDnXIHFcqXenrZ7Xwkm09g/M4uVSh pIUG2RYa6tsHSQoGCp3f2RZv1znfViKQFbbL83QjtPA20AhseZSYbHp1FPhXyy9J0wkGL16L e99g6gdGeIRE82BZjBjKGDkoyDPq+oDRSFl8NtzmIKy+cfz00nViqcTF4bREXEawFGhlpO0X O9q8mijI9iFB6zaPBiSdJGBL5ML5qLTNCl8Zlf4m1TBvmRTqF/lzMHVXHidDoUhpSh/y3AFZ 1KrYc27ztJQywDJPJPWPbtY8YhFLFs377gfP8WldsZjzp8nvoQARAQABzSVDb2xpbiBQZXJj aXZhbCA8Y3BlcmNpdmFAdGFyc25hcC5jb20+wsGRBBMBCAA7FiEEglY7hNBiDtwN+4ZBOJfy 4i5lrT8FAmWMSyYCGwMICwkNCAwHCwMFFQoJCAsFFgMCAQACHgUCF4AACgkQOJfy4i5lrT+i Yg/+PYyJNoFuygtV5t/skcjYmvEC93mnazEvh+x99vGYZnGKeJ8NDOF4QCUzeHquOWxDi8Zl reXyswKcrIquPxxX6+YyGe97VbvLnez3ksfzOYRj1F4qV0Rq8ZNK51+bvIrbcS3SfDaRioAk D7WWwFor8y/hSwxYkfsKbtP5PRcem20JUxuC085zqWLaKv5t5n2CBzAGMjwJaQ3tM3AXVwWJ uJaHA6ot/6fntJlmkfcyCYyyr0D6b0guRj3STbZ2hNn5o2AI+f6LJJ31s2sPFjl6rs7fORf3 hFSNOHDd2HxfVBXFdQy24ROkC4orBBz2xh9GScjxxT/hbXkfufkubFubw7n0HkvHzA3UF+Qq A8JiI3n+d7ocsP0/5BQ2sZdeqPGJgHx6RkAMuW1tJ29wSvCN1qMgFwhYkpQdfvHlociQrimU fvlRfSrBEe8o7tvIuEdpvwvCZSTJqQbVoMw8UHFE7nzyCXUSab5h6PbjakCqim13ekVO2KFF TTPcz5o5jEeUY75tzbIwcDfFbT5KqNjWy06TVdM9VEJDHSfOfxHR3kSEwZ+tT2aTvL3grsUn gFwSNcj4Cl4CRFfUw8zVZY+7O7RiMlhBqykikvUurrdGKc1Scwa0yuppdA6eVvylyTWSQGrQ +uLWtV1LUKN7ZqKJWBkLPt9nS4XZWGyBvxOHYqjOwU0EZYxKtgEQANYfgbtUMVnhjxDHhWLp g5kLHK3YW0TfJKzpXqDB7NiqxHofn4OcbZnVC3MKggcbs9o1/UtsjnlsG8550PfiYkDXvPiO RJwgbGs6MGIDK797C6cnBLQ8xwBa9SL4cl5iQFnhWmt6vwnJ+an/cm5JpYves3wL7jV09qU9 57hkHXEUcl38r4FssZzVcLKPUVTa3Un+QGRTGDGe/f4ctjMaqv0ZCM+l2ixPhf/vqESrfSLv V/+T3dmtUfXjazO3SABvsHwxgGuTTYOlKoPCaebr+BRdqm0xeIShoIlhvTI8y4clchqx/Uxg UG5X2kvU13k3DS3Q8uLE4Et9x1CcZT6WGgBZSR6R0WfD0SDnzufNnRWJ0dEPA2MtJHE7+85R Vi9j/IgZV+y5Ur+bnPkjDG1s2SVciX5v9HQ0oilcBhvx0j5lGE9hhurD9F+fCvkr4KdbCknE 6Y8ce8pCNBUoB/DqibJivOzTk9K9MGB5x0De5TerIrFiaw3/mQC9nGeO9dtE7wvDJetWeoTq 4BEaCzpufNqbkpOaTQILr4V6Gp7M6v97g83TVAwZntz/q8ptwuKQPZ2JaSFLZn7oWUpYXA5s +SIODFHLn6iMoYpBQskHQjnj4lEPJadl4qj+ZKA89iDAKsniyoFXsbJe2CPbMS1yzBxKZq6K D/jpt7BOnuHr/JrXABEBAAHCwXYEGAEIACAWIQSCVjuE0GIO3A37hkE4l/LiLmWtPwUCZYxK tgIbDAAKCRA4l/LiLmWtP3jmEACQrh9gWe8F1Tkw3m6VoHKwLc5he4tX3WpQa//soPO6iGG3 S3WPruQ46NrAaAojoOcKI9UONDO5rxG0ZTX53S+lu2EO47jbcLwOCjaEpjKpDRt9ZXBQE8Xl mtBE9Bp3W9gpjB1nE3KNM1mJYgsK0QdRpwwfh4pVgGpOj8j23I6MCK+v99zEBnpgCn2GX8W/ kctRXHqWwndHysOJtRP/zrl7dDaABF1f9efUl0LL3TD3GJ9VDz+DNOin/uK2a1hiJo8QzTRk PpfUQ2ebzDsrd1i/pOWkMSkdH+rEu4AGrXWtaBwrMyrGkL6Icb6yO+P9/z0W2wlgBf3P1YRt JPgQt/Dj3yvA/UnaV/QmuVQPjl13o24UnJGsZM8XGnNdfWBKkC1Q6VXC4QT+dyBHYH9MuE9d 6oGl8pFM1+cTfEfbM62/rRoPkF1yHMsI/903VxEvuUIKfhEZAVLFyHldooNxuchntHQP9y8J 8Ou9bWYQP7MnEn+kwSwrZkjurfPkan+xQvp6dDYnj3V0GwA5pprBMaB928VIDVOv+1PNQI3t Cvk5VPv/skq+TJRMHW7bFSt8PRa91cUf1FOLIz9APDiJOzXkwxUEHGV3zPSaUhs1JYjyBeGT wDAvtLUdjOnRhEUOwlnIrztmvyciutjJoVzKEEjj5WXnHk9L9kQ1bpAjkjTONw== In-Reply-To: <732A2394-8F18-4802-8CAC-3D724DF2A31A@punkt.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Feedback-ID: ::1.us-east-1.Lv9FVjaNvvR5llaqfLoOVbo2VxOELl7cjN0AOyXnPlk=:AmazonSES X-SES-Outgoing: 2025.12.02-54.240.8.52 X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:14618, ipnet:54.240.8.0/21, country:US] X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4dLWHS63VSz3s1n On 12/2/25 11:31, Patrick M. Hausen wrote: > now that 15.0 is released, what is the recommended order of > tasks when I intend to upgrade a traditionally installed 14.3 > system to pkgbase 15.0? > > freebsd-update before pkgbasify or the other way round? > > I figure for the latter I would need to somehow install pkgbasify on 14.3. > It's not in the FreeBSD pkg repo. Use FreeBSD Update to upgrade to 15.0. At some point before 16.0 you should pkgbasify but there's no rush since FreeBSD Update will be supported for the lifetime of 15.x. Using pkgbase on 14.3 has always been considered "experimental"; I'm glad people tried it out and found some of the bugs in pkgbase early, but it's not the path I would recommend to users. -- Colin Percival FreeBSD Release Engineering Lead & EC2 platform maintainer Founder, Tarsnap | www.tarsnap.com | Online backups for the truly paranoid