From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Apr 22 14: 4:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sasami.jurai.net (sasami.jurai.net [63.67.141.99]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00FDF37B568 for ; Sat, 22 Apr 2000 14:04:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from winter@jurai.net) Received: from localhost (winter@localhost) by sasami.jurai.net (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA28814; Sat, 22 Apr 2000 17:03:16 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 17:03:16 -0400 (EDT) From: "Matthew N. Dodd" To: Jonathan Michaels Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: bad144 missing? In-Reply-To: <20000422141316.A792@phoenix.welearn.com.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 22 Apr 2000, Jonathan Michaels wrote: > some of us freebsd users canot afford to upgrade every time the > rich deside to follow a new whim .. what are we going to do ? > > freebsd is becomin a toy for the "rich americans" it may have > had good begining and tradition but now its just another way to > sell cdroms other paraphenalia and of cources now that bsdi is > involved service cntracts for freebsd and that other old war > horse bsd/os .. both hobbled together both strugling bith now > suffering under the weight of popular opinion. > > it is a sad day when a project becomes driven by populism as > opposed to the tenents of development it lauds so highly. > > take care sooner or latter people will wake up and start asking > one simple question 'is this teh freebsd i want?', when the > answer come back no they will start to look eslewhere. Since the 'wd' driver has been removed from CURRENT I suspect you, or someone who cares will have to take responsibility for ESDI/MFM/RLL disks and maintain the driver and re-implement the BAD144 support in a less clunky manner. PHK's stackable BIO layer would seem (to me) to make this a little easier. While I do have ESDI hardware I've got more than enough ancient junk to worry about supporting at this point. I've also got ESDI to SCSI converters I can fall back on. -- | Matthew N. Dodd | '78 Datsun 280Z | '75 Volvo 164E | FreeBSD/NetBSD | | winter@jurai.net | 2 x '84 Volvo 245DL | ix86,sparc,pmax | | http://www.jurai.net/~winter | This Space For Rent | ISO8802.5 4ever | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message