From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jan 20 20:34:45 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E906CB9063 for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2017 20:34:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Received: from cyrus.watson.org (cyrus.watson.org [198.74.231.69]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67AEC143F for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2017 20:34:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [198.74.231.63]) by cyrus.watson.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5047348AA3; Fri, 20 Jan 2017 15:34:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from fledge.watson.org (doug@localhost.watson.org [127.0.0.1]) by fledge.watson.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id v0KKYhKa046403; Fri, 20 Jan 2017 15:34:44 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Received: from localhost (doug@localhost) by fledge.watson.org (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id v0KKYhQr046400; Fri, 20 Jan 2017 15:34:43 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) X-Authentication-Warning: fledge.watson.org: doug owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2017 15:34:42 -0500 (EST) From: doug@safeport.com X-X-Sender: doug@fledge.watson.org Reply-To: doug@fledge.watson.org To: Warren Block cc: Markus Hoenicka , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Second attempt at FreeBSD-11.0-RELEASE-i386, Xorg, and Xfce graphical desktop In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <18a5de5c-bc3a-c2e8-32c1-ea0a12d446ac@holgerdanske.com> <20170116230336.2cc22d94@riseup.net> <45c5ea44-e0b4-2698-da8e-707c507eb086@holgerdanske.com> <20170118031855.48fbbe2c@riseup.net> <2d4edb680db8c48f2be352b074f2b968@mhoenicka.de> <955ae51c90249264567d01d77b656093@mhoenicka.de> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (fledge.watson.org [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 20 Jan 2017 15:34:44 -0500 (EST) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2017 20:34:45 -0000 On Fri, 20 Jan 2017, Warren Block wrote: > On Thu, 19 Jan 2017, Markus Hoenicka wrote: > >> Turns out to be a case of not RTFM. I do not use a display manager. >> Instead, I run startxfce4 from the console after logging in. The XFCE docs >> say to use startxfce4 --with-ck-launch in this case: >> >> http://docs.xfce.org/xfce/xfce4-session/advanced >> >> Things may work out of the box if you use a display manager. > > I do not use a display manager either, not worth the effort for me. Just > startx. > > My .xinitrc has this: > > # WB: map the Zap combination > setxkbmap -option terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp > > exec /usr/local/bin/startxfce4 --with-ck-launch At least with 10.3 packages, this has all been cleared up. I like and use xdm because my workstations and laptops have multiple accounts. My only issue was that xfce has a requirement of dbus-1.8.20. This makes installing firefox and thunderbird somewhat challenging and rules out pidgin. I have updated Firefox requirements in the past with not so good results to xfce. As I am 1,000 miles from my workstation, I will wait to give this a try. 11.0 sadly did not support the NIC on my laptop. All else went without issue just install necessary packages. Startx out of the box only installing xorg and xfce runs twm. WIFI on this (a 4-5 year old Dell Insprion has never been supported FBSDs 8-11).