From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 26 13:34:16 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: current@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E88F916A41F; Thu, 26 May 2005 13:34:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Alexander@Leidinger.net) Received: from mailout10.sul.t-online.com (mailout10.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88D4443D1D; Thu, 26 May 2005 13:34:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Alexander@Leidinger.net) Received: from fwd16.aul.t-online.de by mailout10.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1DbIV4-0008HA-00; Thu, 26 May 2005 15:34:14 +0200 Received: from Andro-Beta.Leidinger.net (S8Bb34Z6reO4eQclKN92KbpWRW+B3Qf9CUckERDd5VF49MNc-5aygJ@[84.165.249.17]) by fwd16.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1DbIUz-1CyIjI0; Thu, 26 May 2005 15:34:09 +0200 Received: from Magellan.Leidinger.net (Magellan.Leidinger.net [192.168.1.1]) by Andro-Beta.Leidinger.net (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j4QDY8Oa062620; Thu, 26 May 2005 15:34:09 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from Alexander@Leidinger.net) Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 15:34:08 +0200 From: Alexander Leidinger To: "Andreas Heijdendael" Message-ID: <20050526153408.793d1d7d@Magellan.Leidinger.net> In-Reply-To: <001a01c561f1$db6c5610$04a8a8c0@windows> References: <20050526143836.0bf9dc5a@Magellan.Leidinger.net> <001a01c561f1$db6c5610$04a8a8c0@windows> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 1.0.4a (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd6.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ID: S8Bb34Z6reO4eQclKN92KbpWRW+B3Qf9CUckERDd5VF49MNc-5aygJ@t-dialin.net X-TOI-MSGID: fe134df6-7c49-4983-bac8-d2ae48bd0a6d Cc: current@freebsd.org, sos@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ATA as modules -> panic X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 13:34:17 -0000 On Thu, 26 May 2005 14:53:03 +0200 "Andreas Heijdendael" wrote: > Why would you want to remove the ata device from the kernel config in the > first place? Because I don't need it twice (as a module and in the kernel itself). > Seems to me a bit like you're removing the wheels from a car just before you > want to get onto the road. No, I'm loading it as a module instead. It's more like putting everything into the trunk before I get onto the road instead of always having everything in it. But this is a bad metaphor too, since I don't change the hardware that much that I _have_ to remove the ata code, it's just that it is possible (at least it looks like it should be possible) and I want to try this out. > Shouldn't the kernel be able to access the file system in order to even > remotely read the loader.conf file? > Removing the ata device from the kernel would prohibit this. Correct me if > I'm wrong there. The loader works independent from the kernel. So removing the ata code, or anything at all, from the kernel doesn't change the way the loader behaves. Bye, Alexander. -- It is easier to fix Unix than to live with NT. http://www.Leidinger.net Alexander @ Leidinger.net GPG fingerprint = C518 BC70 E67F 143F BE91 3365 79E2 9C60 B006 3FE7