From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 10 10:56:15 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0FDB1065670; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 10:56:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bk0-f54.google.com (mail-bk0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26E588FC12; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 10:56:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bkvi18 with SMTP id i18so3511063bkv.13 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 03:56:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=FEa1IqgAy3Ycx8/YDlGxrn3lzqXHAyujQuGmsLU3NUE=; b=pDODuHZSazw+BnntGLknetvYPKdvKuCx5C0vRZ5KTTA/gZkPE4Zj6Yo9/cVYDMt37v uMAU5Oce0q/8sTOVCbuvuhe+kBPtzJiAas5+3lAF4XKN7i3ntk7CFF5G/ipj+dPu9kln TT4XyFo/jShG+xJzTE0rU943/pgeVcIijme6RTxXlyCUx7o4s7m3XmQtd2Srf9UVpOu5 vm3r0aOKgFKiyEbdJr39YzRlwEWHfXEHthgOG6KCXi0rydCWVppLZ2kGHKRDoPczows5 l6xkOOLxcSI3VdqbCYRY924/aByDaYOW0joerLEfSNkXB36BGXuPLjaXhddl6nXSYaaj nzCQ== Received: by 10.204.154.193 with SMTP id p1mr8623835bkw.102.1339325773857; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 03:56:13 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: utisoft@gmail.com Received: by 10.204.171.138 with HTTP; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 03:55:43 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4FD47C3A.7050001@zedat.fu-berlin.de> References: <20120604110339.GA9426@equilibrium.bsdes.net> <4FD2D4CC.3080109@ateamsystems.com> <4FD3003C.4080109@zedat.fu-berlin.de> <4FD352FF.9090101@ateamsystems.com> <4FD357F2.9090901@zedat.fu-berlin.de> <4FD35905.9080500@ateamsystems.com> <20120610121210.3ce1bd9d@zelda.sugioarto.com> <4FD47C3A.7050001@zedat.fu-berlin.de> From: Chris Rees Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 11:55:43 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: pTvuFO9zTNTA_l0VYzLscP_v0fI Message-ID: To: "O. Hartmann" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Steve Franks , Current FreeBSD , freebsd-stable , Martin Sugioarto , Adam Strohl Subject: Re: Why Are You NOT Using FreeBSD ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 10:56:16 -0000 On 10 June 2012 11:51, O. Hartmann wrote: > On 06/10/12 12:37, Chris Rees wrote: >> On 10 June 2012 11:12, Martin Sugioarto wrote: >>> Am Sat, 09 Jun 2012 21:09:09 +0700 >>> schrieb Adam Strohl : >>> >>>> I get the feeling people are updating their ports tree and then >>>> recompiling/reinstalling everything "just because" and then are >>>> complaining when one thing breaks (its the only thing I can think of). >>> >>> Hi. >>> >>> But it does not need to break. Sometimes it would be enough just to >>> test if the port compiles before committing it (I'm talking about >>> libreoffice here which is broken). Some people rely on some essential >>> ports. I can understand that porters are not Gods and make errors, but >>> they should be fixed within hours, when they have been found on >>> important ports. >>> >>> I mean, ports collection is sure great and this is one of the aspects >>> why I am using FreeBSD, but at the moment FreeBSD is losing strength >>> here, in my opinion. >> >> Er... people always test their commits. =A0Sometimes edge cases will >> creep in, such as the libreoffice failure which was due to different >> configurations, but to suggest that the commit wasn't tested is quite >> frankly insulting-- it built on a clean system perfectly well. >> >> Chris > > In do not see any insulting statement! Why those exaggerations? >> Sometimes it would be enough just to >> test if the port compiles before committing it (I'm talking about >> libreoffice here which is broken)