From owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 27 20:44:03 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22D1116A41C for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 20:44:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com) Received: from lakecmmtao06.coxmail.com (lakecmmtao06.coxmail.com [68.99.120.82]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A96B443D49 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 20:44:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com) Received: from dns1 ([64.58.171.82]) by lakecmmtao06.coxmail.com (InterMail vM.6.01.04.04 201-2131-118-104-20050224) with ESMTP id <20050627204358.HINX11396.lakecmmtao06.coxmail.com@dns1>; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 16:43:58 -0400 From: Vizion To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 13:39:31 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <200506271052.56060.vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com> <42C0513C.5010608@zonnet.nl> In-Reply-To: <42C0513C.5010608@zonnet.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200506271339.31780.vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com> Cc: Frank Staals Subject: Re: Eclipse - plugin ports tree & mailing list query X-BeenThere: freebsd-java@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting Java to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 20:44:03 -0000 On Monday 27 June 2005 12:19, the author Frank Staals contributed to the dialogue on- Re: Eclipse - plugin ports tree & mailing list query: >Vizion wrote: >>Hi >> >>I am wondering if anyone knows of any plans to maintain, within the ports >>tree, a plugin sub-tree for eclipse. In view of the enormous and ever >>increasing value of eclipse as a development tool, such a move could be a >>valuable resource for the freebsd community. >> >>Secondly does anyone else feel there is some justification for a >>freebsd-eclipse@freebsd.org mailing list? >> >>Reactions please >> >>David >> >> >> >>40 yrs navigating and computing in blue waters. >>English Owner & Captain of British Registered 60' bluewater Ketch S/V >> Taurus. Currently in San Diego, CA. Sailing bound for Europe via Panama >> Canal when new engine installed. >>_______________________________________________ >>freebsd-java@freebsd.org mailing list >>http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-java >>To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-java-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >I think an sole category for the eclipse-plugins wouldn't be very >usefull since eclipse 3.1 has an easy system to manually add plugins. It >will donwload and install them automatically. That is true BUT eclipse plugins are located all over the net and some plugins do need tailoring for correct installation for multi-user operation on a freebsd system. > >For a freebsd-eclipse mailinglist: also that Idea seams a litle too >much, the amount of questions here at java @ freeBSd.org isn't that high >so the questions about eclipse can be just here in my opinion I think that has been true so far -- but I am hoping that having a freebsd-eclipse mailing list will facilitate co-operation between eclipse users generally and the freebsd community and reduce, what I experience, as a negative attitude towards eclipse on freebsd by the IBM centric eclipse development team. That team has, in my opinion not yet, migrated its thinking towards a generally open source approach which treats all operating systems as equal. They still carry the notion of "supported systems" and "non-supported" operating systems and when a user of a "non supported OS reports a bug the team then responds by saying they cannot look at it because it is a non-supported OS user. My view is we need an eclipse focused mailing list to draw the eclipse team into feeling that freebsd users recognize and contributes positively to the eclipse deveopment cycle. David > >Frank Staals >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-java@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-java >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-java-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- 40 yrs navigating and computing in blue waters. English Owner & Captain of British Registered 60' bluewater Ketch S/V Taurus. Currently in San Diego, CA. Sailing May/June bound for Europe via Panama Canal.