From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Nov 29 10: 6:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from polaris.we.lc.ehu.es (polaris.we.lc.ehu.es [158.227.6.43]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DED737B416; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 10:06:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from v-ger.we.lc.ehu.es (v-ger [158.227.6.51]) by polaris.we.lc.ehu.es (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fATI6Mr00868; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 19:06:22 +0100 (MET) Received: (from jose@localhost) by v-ger.we.lc.ehu.es (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fATI6ZR02466; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 19:06:35 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jose) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 19:06:35 +0100 From: "Jose M. Alcaide" To: "Bruce A. Mah" Cc: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Ing=2E_Anton=EDn_Walter?= , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Realtek 8139 Message-ID: <20011129190635.M346@v-ger.we.lc.ehu.es> Mail-Followup-To: "Bruce A. Mah" , =?iso-8859-1?Q?Ing=2E_Anton=EDn_Walter?= , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20011129132434.D346@v-ger.we.lc.ehu.es> <20011129173657.H346@v-ger.we.lc.ehu.es> <200111291707.fATH7Uq84908@c527597-a.cstvl1.sfba.home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200111291707.fATH7Uq84908@c527597-a.cstvl1.sfba.home.com>; from bmah@FreeBSD.ORG on Thu, Nov 29, 2001 at 09:07:30AM -0800 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Nov 29, 2001 at 09:07:30AM -0800, Bruce A. Mah wrote: > If memory serves me right, "Jose M. Alcaide" wrote: > > That strongly depends on the kind of hub/switch the card is connected to. > > I found that the autonegotiation problems of the RealTek 8139 arise when > > the hub or switch port is configured at 10 Mbps. Then, an explicit > > "ifconfig rlN media 10baseT/UTP" is needed in many cases. > > For more commentary on this, see rev. 1.51 of src/sys/pci/if_rl.c. + /* Detect the Realtek 8139B. For some reason, this chip is very + * unstable when left to autoselect the media + * The best workaround is to set the device to the required + * media type or to set it to the 10 Meg speed. + */ Yes, indeed :-) Unfortunately, those cheap 8139-based cards are the most generally available. Usually those cards are the only ones available in the stocks of the PC shops, at least here in Spain (most users[*] tend to blindly buy the cheaper computer parts and accesories). I always recommend the fxp's or xl's, but they must be backordered, which implies waiting a few days for the card to arrive. As a consequence, we have a number of PCs with 8139 ethernet interfaces :-( . [*] USER, n.: The word computer professionals use when they mean "idiot." -- Dave Barry, "Claw Your Way to the Top" Cheers, JMA -- ****** Jose M. Alcaide // jose@we.lc.ehu.es // jmas@FreeBSD.org ****** ** "Beware of Programmers who carry screwdrivers" -- Leonard Brandwein ** To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message