From owner-freebsd-advocacy Fri Nov 6 11:46:06 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA19415 for freebsd-advocacy-outgoing; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 11:46:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtp03.wxs.nl (smtp03.wxs.nl [195.121.6.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA19347 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 11:45:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from asmodai@wxs.nl) Received: from chronias.ninth-circle.org ([195.121.58.164]) by smtp03.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with ESMTP id AAA21C0; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 20:45:44 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4.1.19981106133411.00b1a750@genesis.ispace.com> Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1998 20:49:46 +0100 (CET) Organization: Ninth Circle Enterprises From: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai To: Drew Baxter Subject: Re: Linux "best of breed?" Cc: advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 06-Nov-98 Drew Baxter wrote: > At 01:43 PM 11/6/98 +0100, Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai wrote: >>There, there ye have it exactly. Linux is but a kernel surrounded by a chaos >>of distributions in which some good ideas emerge. FreeBSD is an entire >>Operating System effort. Can we even compare the two then? IMHO, yes and no. >>Yes: we can compare the different Linux distributions and the entire FreeBSD >>package. We can also compare the Linux kernel with the FreeBSD kernel. No, we >>cannot compare FreeBSD to Linux without specifying what we're comparing. > > You're right, the packaging makes the OS. Noone cares about the core > (nucleus) but moreso about the surrounding architecture.. Which is probably > why Windows is bundled with a bunch of software generally. I very much care about the nucleus, that's why we also have nuclean members, errr, _core_ members =) >>As I said before, I myself, the guru friend of mine, two associates of mine >>all prefer FreeBSD (*BSD) over Linux for reasons that can only be described >>as real life experience and preference for certain things. > > Friends of mine are all Linux heads, now suddenly they want to switch.. I'm > like "Why?" and they can't answer.. Everyone wants to be somebody I guess. The term lemming applies... ;) >>That's a good thing that Wes started, to accumulate the effort out there. >>Linux users are so keen on quoting where, what and how Linux is used. I only >>know of the picoBSD project, the Whistle InterJet, Pluto Space and the yes.no >>website from Eivind (sorry if that is the Pluto Eivind, still working on my >>Norwegian ;) > > And all those are accomplishments, definitely.. Think this though.. U-Haul > has been around for years (US and Canada only), and they never once put an > ad on TV.. That's a common name in a household, "Well you could get a > U-Haul and move it..".. Sometimes you can generate better and more > publicity from word of mouth then you ever could with these speils in CNet.. I came to FreeBSD by word of mouth... (sees Eivind and Jordan still regretting the day I started posting ;) >>Oh and btw, "Linux is obsolete" -- Andrew S. Tanenbaum > > Obsolete stuff usually never gets updated.. As long as there is revision, > there will never be total obsoletion... Sorry, ye obviously might not know the background, and ye couldn't since it isn't evident in one sentence =) Andrew and Linus were discussing kernels and Linus insisted on using a monolithic kernel anno 1991, Andy simply said that that was obsolete (take a look at Amoebe and Mach). --- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven/Asmodai asmodai(at)wxs.nl Junior Network/Security Specialist FreeBSD & picoBSD: The Power to Serve... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message