From owner-freebsd-chat Fri Dec 14 11:58:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from web21110.mail.yahoo.com (web21110.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.227.112]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 593E137B41A for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2001 11:58:44 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20011214195844.56774.qmail@web21110.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [80.4.34.175] by web21110.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 14 Dec 2001 11:58:44 PST Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2001 11:58:44 -0800 (PST) From: Hiten Pandya Subject: Re: IBM suing (was: RMS Suing was [SUGGESTION] - JFS for FreeBSD) To: Brett Glass Cc: chat@FreeBSD.org, grog@FreeBSD.org, phk@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20011214123703.02ad7290@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --- Brett Glass wrote: > The GPL is not "agreeable." It is anti-business and > anti-programmer and should not be tolerated in any > way, shape, or form in a BSD source tree. > > It would be far better to build on softupdates, > which is an exceptionally powerful technology that's > unique to BSD. > Even if journaling is desired, a technology based on > softupdates would minimize data loss and reduce > the degree to which the state of the file system had > to be rolled back after a crash In short, perhaps the next step should be "firmupdates." I would (think about agreeing) with (you/other) if: - You, or other large number of developers were to help me out in squeezing in perf. and journaling capabilities into the current "SOFTUPDATES" code, and also help me in adding journaling capabilities and other major features. - Help me do better job than (no offence) Kirk McKusick in optimising the FFS/UFS file system which has a (undoubtably) large and mature codebase of over around 20 years. I am not just planning to porting JFS because i think that the buzzword "Journaling File System" sounds good to me, but its also about getting a major change into the 5.0 Release of FreeBSD, and also that it is a small codebase of nothing more than 2000 lines or so. If people are/were really interested in adding journaling capabilties to UFS/FFS, no offense, why isn't there a project in the FreeBSD Projects list for this or elsewhere on the internet. Success comes at a hard price, and the hard price for this case is to first port the FS, and then see what peoples and corporates reactions are to this. Thanks, =Hiten = ===== -Hiten, Thank You, Yours Sincerely, Hiten Pandya, __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Check out Yahoo! Shopping and Yahoo! Auctions for all of your unique holiday gifts! Buy at http://shopping.yahoo.com or bid at http://auctions.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message