From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 2 11:38:36 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FCB4106566B; Sat, 2 Oct 2010 11:38:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rfarmer@predatorlabs.net) Received: from mail-qy0-f182.google.com (mail-qy0-f182.google.com [209.85.216.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCBC18FC14; Sat, 2 Oct 2010 11:38:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk33 with SMTP id 33so1858076qyk.13 for ; Sat, 02 Oct 2010 04:38:35 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.11.129 with SMTP id t1mr4819964qat.263.1286019514969; Sat, 02 Oct 2010 04:38:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.188.3 with HTTP; Sat, 2 Oct 2010 04:38:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [128.95.133.175] In-Reply-To: <20101002060201.GA8287@dragon.NUXI.org> References: <4C93AA31.5080202@DataIX.net> <20100917205404.GA66620@atarininja.org> <20100917232437.GC67059@atarininja.org> <20101002060201.GA8287@dragon.NUXI.org> Date: Sat, 2 Oct 2010 04:38:34 -0700 Message-ID: From: Rob Farmer To: obrien@nuxi.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: David DEMELIER , FreeBSD Ports , Wesley Shields Subject: Re: editors/vim installs to / X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Oct 2010 11:38:36 -0000 On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 23:02, David O'Brien wrote: > For gtk1, I have 13 packages that require it. =A0For gtk2, I have 49 > packages that require it. =A0So I agree their are significantly more port= s > that depend on gtk2 -- and thus little way to avoid having it installed > on one's system. > > Thoughts? In my experience, unless you choose one of the minimalist window managers and are very selective about what you install, GTK 2 might as well be part of X. x11/xorg, with default options, pulls in 90% of GTK 2 dependencies via sysutils/hal and avoiding the rest means no firefox, which alone is probably a dealbreaker for most people. I personally like Ade's suggestion, since it makes a gui opt-in for an application that functions perfectly well without one. -- Rob Farmer