From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 13 04:12:48 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 908B1106564A; Sun, 13 Mar 2011 04:12:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [IPv6:2607:f678:1010::34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62B9A8FC1B; Sun, 13 Mar 2011 04:12:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id p2D4Clsf032885 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sat, 12 Mar 2011 20:12:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id p2D4CltU032884; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 20:12:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from fbsd61 by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA04341; Sat, 12 Mar 11 20:02:40 PST Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 20:02:38 -0800 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: dougb@freebsd.org Message-Id: <4d7c41de.0fAx27IM1ro9CjLl%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <4D76426A.2010006@secnap.com> <20110312215307.GB26099@lonesome.com> <20110312221233.GD79028@comcast.net> <4D7C00D5.8070003@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <4D7C00D5.8070003@FreeBSD.org> User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Superfluous dependencies X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 04:12:48 -0000 Doug Barton wrote: > ... what is really needed is for the OPTIONS framework to take > environmental preferences into account when dealing with defaults > ... if WITHOUT_X11 is defined in make.conf, then the defaults for > OPTIONS that are related to requiring X11 stuff should be off ... > that logic really needs to be in bsd.options.mk. Any volunteers? While we are at it, WITHOUT_X11 really needs a WITHOUT_X11_SERVER subcase. There's precious little use for an X11 _server_ on many headless systems -- I don't say "all" because someone might want VNC even on a headless box -- but they may well want some X11 _clients_. I'd consider volunteering if not for ENOTIME -- I'm having enough trouble finding time to get an 8.x system set up "the way I want it" before my current (6.1) box dies of old age. (The principal problem involves either a geom issue or, much more likely, my misunderstanding of how that part of geom works. The same trace code will work equally well to clear up either case :)