From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 9 11:25:44 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA10397 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 11:25:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from laker.net (jet.laker.net [205.245.74.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA10387 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 11:25:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sfriedri@laker.net) Received: from nt (digital-pbi-114.laker.net [208.0.233.14]) by laker.net (8.9.0/8.9.LAKERNET.NO-SPAM.SPAMMERS.AND.RELAYS.WILL.BE.TRACKED.AND.PROSECUTED.) with SMTP id OAA03810; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 14:24:27 -0500 Message-Id: <199811091924.OAA03810@laker.net> From: "Steve Friedrich" To: "pat.groce@state.sd.us" , "Phillip Salzman" Cc: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG" Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 14:22:43 -0500 Reply-To: "Steve Friedrich" X-Mailer: PMMail 98 Professional (2.01.1600) For Windows NT (4.0.1381;3) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: unix is a problem: free bsd doesn't help Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 9 Nov 1998 19:01:54 +0000 (GMT), Phillip Salzman wrote: >simple, most people aren't clueless I'm not suggesting that 3.0R not be available, just that you won't be able to get it without reading. The current link to boot floppies points to 3.0R floppies, and I'm suggesting that this is a bad idea. It should point to 2.2.7 floppies. If you took the time to read, you could find the 3.0R floppies. I also like the idea of a web page with the bullets I mentioned previously, with a statement saying "I certify..." just as an attempt to get the point across. Pat will probably spread negative thoughts about freebsd, based on his bad experiences, even though it was his own fault. I doubt he'll ever believe it was his fault. We should protect freebsd's reputation by preventing people who won't read the release notes from getting 3.0R easily. BTW, if they've been running a mail server for 4 years, it wasn't 2.2.7 anyway. He still would have been caught with his pants down because of changes in /etc config files. They should have been tracking freebsd (he didn't mention it, AFAIK). Unix systems measure "uptime" in years, Winblows measures it in minutes. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message