From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 5 17:34:27 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95051106567A for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2008 17:34:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from itz@mushinsky.net) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.185]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E3438FC2D for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2008 17:34:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from itz@mushinsky.net) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id b2so1201522nfb.33 for ; Wed, 05 Mar 2008 09:34:26 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.78.130.6 with SMTP id c6mr5609253hud.6.1204736764374; Wed, 05 Mar 2008 09:06:04 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.78.139.1 with HTTP; Wed, 5 Mar 2008 09:06:04 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 12:06:04 -0500 From: "Isaac Mushinsky" To: "Jung-uk Kim" In-Reply-To: <200803051144.27263.jkim@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <200803042252.13008.itz@mushinsky.net> <20080305074612.GN68971@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> <200803051144.27263.jkim@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Subject: Re: amd64 platform newbie -- what video card for x11? X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2008 17:34:27 -0000 On 3/5/08, Jung-uk Kim wrote: > > On Wednesday 05 March 2008 03:52 am, Isaac Mushinsky wrote: > > On 3/5/08, Peter Jeremy wrote: > > > On Tue, Mar 04, 2008 at 10:52:12PM -0500, Isaac Mushinsky wrote: > > > >1) does the open nv driver work? I do not play games or really > > > > need 3D acceleration, just want basic 2D and things like > > > > mplayer to work properly. > > > > > > For basic purposes and mplayer, nv should do. It might just soak > > > up more CPU than a better driver would. > > > > > > >2) should I return nvidia card and get something else? Is there > > > > a better reasonably working card? > > > > > > I'll second the ATI suggestion. Note that whilst AMD have > > > indicated they will open-source the ATI GPU specs, I believe they > > > have only released specs for a single GPU so far and it will take > > > some time for the open specs to reach the X.org drivers. > > > > > > -- > > > Peter Jeremy > > > Please excuse any delays as the result of my ISP's inability to > > > implement an MTA that is either RFC2821-compliant or matches > > > their claimed behaviour. > > > > What current ATI cards have the best support? > > > [Note: moved from amd64 ML.] > > Summary: > http://tirdc.livejournal.com/17521.html > > Some corrections: > http://tirdc.livejournal.com/17750.html > http://tirdc.livejournal.com/18076.html > > Radeon chipset families: > http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/ATIRadeon > > FreeBSD is lagging behind little bit in 3D area because Linux > developers are constantly breaking DRM for FreeBSD to add new > features and cards and our in-tree DRM is quite old now. :-( > So, if you don't care about 3D acceleration ATM, I think you will be > happy with R5xx family controllers since Xv support has been added in > the latest driver from git: > > http://airlied.livejournal.com/56998.html > http://www.phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7997 > > I heard AMD/ATI will release R6xx family 3D spec. this month but it > will take some time to have a working 3D acceleration because the > programming API is quite different: > > http://www.phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8148 > > FYI, open source AMD/ATI drivers are very fast moving targets ATM, > e.g., mach64 and r128 were splitted up into separate drivers > (xf86-video-mach64 and xf86-video-r128 respectively) and there are > two drivers for R5xx/R6xx, i.e., xf86-video-ati and > xf86-video-radeonhd. > > Personally I have RV280, M12 (mobile RV360), and M76 (mobile RV630) > and I am very happy with all three. :-) > > > Jung-uk Kim Sorry; replied to you and forgot to post to the list. Is there any difference between R5xx and RV5xx, or same drivers will work?