From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 12 09:12:49 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: current@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABD9F16A51A; Fri, 12 May 2006 09:12:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr10.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr10.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.30]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2845A43D6E; Fri, 12 May 2006 09:12:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by smtp-vbr10.xs4all.nl (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k4C9Caut067545; Fri, 12 May 2006 11:12:38 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.13.4/8.13.3) with ESMTP id k4C9Caku056804; Fri, 12 May 2006 11:12:36 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: (from wb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.13.4/8.13.1/Submit) id k4C9Cali056803; Fri, 12 May 2006 11:12:36 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wb) Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 11:12:36 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: Kevin Oberman Message-ID: <20060512091236.GA56790@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <200605111424.04935.jhb@freebsd.org> <20060511223035.189F545053@ptavv.es.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060511223035.189F545053@ptavv.es.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: alpha@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HEADSUP: Alpha support is being retired in 7.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 09:12:50 -0000 On Thu, May 11, 2006 at 03:30:35PM -0700, Kevin Oberman wrote.. > > From: John Baldwin > > Date: Thu, 11 May 2006 14:24:03 -0400 > > Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org > > > > Alpha was the first non-x86 port that was added to FreeBSD, and as such it has > > greatly aided the efforts to keep FreeBSD from being too i386-centric. > > However, recently the Alpha port has not had any active development or > > maintenance. As a result, the quality of the Alpha releases that the Project > > provides are not on par with other supported architectures and is in fact > > degrading. Unfortunately, as an architecture it has also been killed by its > > creator. > > I'd say to was killed by its owner. It's creator (corporate) no longer > exists and its creators (designers) are very sad at its demise. It was > an amazing design for its time and could have been a powerful force in > hardware with anything that resembled reasonable marketing. Interesting side note: quite a few of the Alpha folks moved to AMD. And see what happened :) > (Sorry for the digression. The Alpha was very dear to me and, while not > a designer, I knew some of them.) Same here :/ -- Wilko Bulte wilko@FreeBSD.org