From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Sep 14 22:50:19 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B61506725F3 for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2021 22:50:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Received: from freeport.safeport.com (freeport.safeport.com [147.160.157.114]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4H8JTQ6xrdz4YwF for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2021 22:50:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Received: from bucksport.safeport.com (bucksport.safeport.com [198.74.231.101]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by freeport.safeport.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7B6541515C0 for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2021 18:44:38 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2021 18:44:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Doug Denault To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: zfs newbie (fwd) Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-ID: X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4H8JTQ6xrdz4YwF X-Spamd-Bar: +++++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=fail (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of doug@safeport.com does not designate 147.160.157.114 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=doug@safeport.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [7.53 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_SPF_FAIL(1.00)[-all:c]; FAKE_REPLY(1.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; GREYLIST(0.00)[pass,body]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/mixed,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(1.00)[0.998]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROMTLD(0.00)[]; VIOLATED_DIRECT_SPF(3.50)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.96)[-0.964]; CTYPE_MIXED_BOGUS(1.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[safeport.com]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(1.00)[1.000]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:6405, ipnet:147.160.157.0/24, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions] X-Spam: Yes Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.34 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2021 22:50:19 -0000 crud -sent from wrong user again; there may be 2 of these ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2021 18:42:26 -0400 (EDT) From: DTD To: Dan Langille Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: zfs newbie On Tue, 14 Sep 2021, Dan Langille wrote: > DTD wrote on 9/7/21 5:51 PM: >> Following the default 12.2 zfs install I got one pool (zroot) and a dataset >> for each of the traditional mount points. So zfs list shows: >> >> NAME                 USED  AVAIL  REFER  MOUNTPOINT >> zroot                279G  6.75T    88K  /zroot >> zroot/ROOT          1.74G  6.75T    88K  none >> zroot/ROOT/default  1.74G  6.75T  1.74G  / >> zroot/tmp            176K  6.75T   176K  /tmp >> zroot/usr            277G  6.75T    88K  /usr >> zroot/usr/home       276G  6.75T   276G  /usr/home >> zroot/usr/ports       88K  6.75T    88K  /usr/ports >> zroot/usr/src        670M  6.75T   670M  /usr/src >> zroot/var           47.5M  6.75T    88K  /var >> zroot/var/audit       88K  6.75T    88K  /var/audit >> zroot/var/crash       88K  6.75T    88K  /var/crash >> zroot/var/log        820K  6.75T   820K  /var/log >> zroot/var/mail      46.3M  6.75T  46.3M  /var/mail >> zroot/var/tmp         88K  6.75T    88K  /var/tmp >> >> I had consultant configure another service for us. He set up the disk array >> with one dataset. so zfs list on this system give: >> >> NAME    USED  AVAIL  REFER  MOUNTPOINT >> zroot  2.65G  13.2T  2.62G  legacy >> >> From a sysadmin view I rather like the multiple datasets. Are there >> advantages to one over the other? > > I see no advantages to me in the single dataset. > > What do you see from zpool status? I'm wondering if this is not directly on > hardware, such as a VM under VMware. > Nop, no VM. I have three system that I did a take all options zfs install on. I do not remember which one I posted so here is a matching set: > freebsd-version 12.1-RELEASE-p8 > zfs list NAME USED AVAIL REFER MOUNTPOINT zroot 90.6G 801G 88K /zroot zroot/ROOT 89.9G 801G 88K none zroot/ROOT/default 89.9G 801G 89.9G / zroot/tmp 156K 801G 156K /tmp zroot/usr 723M 801G 88K /usr zroot/usr/home 18.7M 801G 18.7M /usr/home zroot/usr/ports 88K 801G 88K /usr/ports zroot/usr/src 704M 801G 704M /usr/src zroot/var 21.7M 801G 88K /var zroot/var/audit 88K 801G 88K /var/audit zroot/var/crash 88K 801G 88K /var/crash zroot/var/log 21.3M 801G 21.3M /var/log zroot/var/mail 88K 801G 88K /var/mail zroot/var/tmp 88K 801G 88K /var/tmp > zpool status pool: zroot state: ONLINE scan: none requested config: NAME STATE READ WRITE CKSUM zroot ONLINE 0 0 0 mirror-0 ONLINE 0 0 0 ada0p3 ONLINE 0 0 0 ada1p3 ONLINE 0 0 0 errors: No known data errors _____ Douglas Denault http://www.safeport.com support@safeport.com Voice: 301-217-9220 Fax: 301-217-9277 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Sep 14 23:48:37 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C01A673588 for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2021 23:48:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from list_freebsd@bluerosetech.com) Received: from echo.brtsvcs.net (echo.brtsvcs.net [208.111.40.118]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4H8Kmh2C0Zz4p97; Tue, 14 Sep 2021 23:48:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from list_freebsd@bluerosetech.com) Received: from chombo.houseloki.net (65-100-43-2.dia.static.qwest.net [65.100.43.2]) by echo.brtsvcs.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A701938D84; Tue, 14 Sep 2021 23:48:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [IPv6:2602:41:642b:630:34ed:5817:b480:556d] (unknown [IPv6:2602:41:642b:630:34ed:5817:b480:556d]) by chombo.houseloki.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id F2011E1B; Tue, 14 Sep 2021 16:48:26 -0700 (PDT) To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Mel Pilgrim Subject: Clarification on MOVED entries when flavouring a port Message-ID: <48ff904a-aad1-6440-f319-ce3e38fcc250@bluerosetech.com> Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2021 16:48:27 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.12.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4H8Kmh2C0Zz4p97 X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of list_freebsd@bluerosetech.com designates 208.111.40.118 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=list_freebsd@bluerosetech.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.30 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx:relay3.brtsvcs.net]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[bluerosetech.com]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:36236, ipnet:208.111.40.0/24, country:US]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2021 23:48:37 -0000 I'm flavouring a port. The pkg name will change when upgrading from unflavoured to flavoured because the flavoured version will have a PKGNAMESUFFIX. Does this require a MOVED entry? The PKGNAMESUFFIX is based on default-versions so the "default" flavour is whatever the current default version is. If I need a MOVED entry, do I make the entry with the current default version?