From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 30 22:55:40 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01A8916A4CE; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 22:55:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ns1.tiadon.com (SMTP.tiadon.com [69.27.132.161]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE76D43D48; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 22:55:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from [69.27.131.0] ([69.27.131.0]) by ns1.tiadon.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Tue, 30 Nov 2004 16:52:33 -0600 Message-ID: <41ACFA75.3040307@daleco.biz> Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 16:55:49 -0600 From: "Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P." User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20041023 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Torfinn Ingolfsen References: <20041130131228.GA19023@frogman.motivity.ca> <20041130154715.3465d998.torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no> In-Reply-To: <20041130154715.3465d998.torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Nov 2004 22:52:34.0137 (UTC) FILETIME=[47CE8C90:01C4D72F] cc: questions@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org cc: Vance Shipley Subject: Re: erase2 ( xterm X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 22:55:40 -0000 I'm cc-ing questions@ in the hope that Vance gets an answer, and because this probably isn't really stable@ material. *To whom it may concern: **Please** remove the freebd-stable CC if you reply. Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote: >On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 08:12:28 -0500 >Vance Shipley wrote: > > >>What's up with the ( key functioning as a backspace key >>in an xterm? >> >> > >It doesn't do that here: >tingo@kg-work$ echo $TERM >xterm >tingo@kg-work$ stty -a | grep erase > -echoprt -altwerase -noflsh -tostop -flusho pendin -nokerninfo > eol2 = ; erase = ^H; erase2 = ^H; intr = ^C; kill = ^U; > status = ^T; stop = ^S; susp = ^Z; time = 0; werase = ^W; > >I'm running: >tingo@kg-work$ uname -a >FreeBSD kg-work.kg4.no 5.3-STABLE FreeBSD 5.3-STABLE #1: Sun Nov 14 >20:19:11 CET 2004 root@kg-work.kg4.no:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SS51G >i386 > > Hmm, note that he was grepping "erase2" and you grepped "erase." Check the original post .... It shows up like Vance's here, in xterm, Eterm, Aterm, gnometerminal, and on the console on ttyv2 whether $TERM is set to "xterm-color", "xterm", or "cons25". Probably if you grep the same term, yours will say that also ... However, his statement "functioning as a backspace" doesn't ring true, because, no such functionality is present (for me) in any terminal with that key, regardless of the $TERM variable. Terminal emulation is a little bit mysterious to me; maybe someone with more expertise can answer the larger question. I'm just curious whether pushing the {right parenthesis} character on Vance's keyboard actually does backspace, and whether he's on the console, on X, using PuTTY from a Winboxen, etc., and/or what terminal emulator he's actually using, what version he's running, whether his termcap symlink or file is corrupt/missing, etc., etc., blah, blah.... Vance? Kevin Kinsey