From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 18 00:38:22 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB5741065672; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 00:38:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rfarmer@predatorlabs.net) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 507BF8FC08; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 00:38:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws2 with SMTP id 2so502535vws.13 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 17:38:21 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.122.151 with SMTP id l23mr1902079vcr.162.1284770301493; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 17:38:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.188.3 with HTTP; Fri, 17 Sep 2010 17:38:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [71.1.133.114] In-Reply-To: <20100917232437.GC67059@atarininja.org> References: <4C93AA31.5080202@DataIX.net> <20100917205404.GA66620@atarininja.org> <20100917232437.GC67059@atarininja.org> Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 17:38:21 -0700 Message-ID: From: Rob Farmer To: Wesley Shields Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: David DEMELIER , FreeBSD Ports Subject: Re: editors/vim installs to / X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 00:38:22 -0000 On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 16:24, Wesley Shields wrote: > On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 03:51:42PM -0700, Rob Farmer wrote: >> On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 13:54, Wesley Shields wrote: >> > While I agree that editors/vim could use the changes you're discussing, >> > do you really think such a comment is needed? Attacks like that are not >> > necessary. Let your code speak for itself. >> > >> > -- WXS >> >> This port has major issues and numerous polite requests (including >> with patches) to fix them have been summarily ignored or rejected. So >> don't act surprised when people start to get annoyed by the situation. > > I'm not surprised. I'm pointing out that attacks like that are not going > to further the cause of getting the port the care you think it deserves. > > Unfortunately I don't know what the answer is beyond polite requests and > patches to fix the problems as you see them. I do know that attacks are > not the answer and are in fact harmful to achieving a goal. > > -- WXS > Fair enough. My apologies if my comments on this were too aggressive. However, I still think it would benefit everyone if the maintainer could provide an explanation for some of the current behavior and would at least be open to discussion about changing it. The biggest problem here, IMHO, is not the OPTIONS issue, but rather the use of GTK 1 as the default. Plenty of ports don't support OPTIONS, even though they could, and many users ignore options by setting BATCH, but it isn't a big deal because the defaults are ideal for most situations. I think either defaulting to GTK 2 or just making vim a console application would eliminate most of these complaints. -- Rob Farmer