From owner-freebsd-qa Thu Feb 17 22:18:33 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-qa@freebsd.org Received: from server.baldwin.cx (jobaldwi.campus.vt.edu [198.82.67.146]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA12537B8FA for ; Thu, 17 Feb 2000 22:18:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from john.baldwin.cx (john [10.0.0.2]) by server.baldwin.cx (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA43140; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 01:17:09 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Message-Id: <200002180617.BAA43140@server.baldwin.cx> X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <14508.24306.459593.102063@hip186.ch.intel.com> Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 01:17:09 -0500 (EST) From: John Baldwin To: John Reynolds~ Subject: RE: feedback on CD install of 4.0-RC2 Cc: freebsd-qa@FreeBSD.org Sender: owner-freebsd-qa@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [ cc's trimmed, just keeping this on -qa ] On 17-Feb-00 John Reynolds~ wrote: > > [ On Thursday, February 17, John Baldwin wrote: ] >> >> > [printing ATA message about "waiting"] >> > >> Soren's been bugged about this, bug him some more. :) >> > > BUG BUG BUG :) Send it to his e-mail address. :) >> Hmm, it used to say something to that effect a while back. > > can't comment. I haven't done a CD install in a looong time. I think it has to do with the novice install. > OK. That's what happened! I added a new user ("me") before I did the desktop > configuration. So, you're saying that it adds a "dot.xinitrc" file in > /usr/shar/skel which would be copied to all created accounts? Yes, exactly. > Perhaps something could be added to sysinstall so that the "dot.*" files > aren't copied to user accounts until a) after a desktop configuration, or b) > sysinstall exits. Or, perhaps safer, if you do a desktop configuration recopy > all the dot.* files to all user accounts that were created during that > sysinstall session. Seems that would fix the problem ... No. Think of it this way, if you run sysinstall to reinstall a machine, or if you upgrade a machine, or use it to do configuration later on, you don't want to spam all users' dotfiles in their home directores with the updated ones in /usr/share/skel. Basically, newbies should use Novice, and as long as Novice does Desktop before adding new users, that is sufficient. If you use custom, then you have to know these things. :) The main menu of sysinstall warns you that Custom is for experts only. I know that in Windows I use custom all the time when installing software, but that warning was enough to make me use Novice back when I installed 2.1.6 the first time, and I think it should be sufficient for other newbies as well. >> Then submit patches to the /usr/share/skel files in a PR. I'm not sure where they >> are in the src tree, maybe src/share/skel. > > Indeed. However, as we were talking about this morning in -qa, is a better > spot for these variables /etc/csh.cshrc and /etc/profile? Mmmm.. I'm not sure. -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.cslab.vt.edu/~jobaldwi/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-qa" in the body of the message