From owner-freebsd-current Tue Mar 4 11:44: 3 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89C1F37B401; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 11:44:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from canning.wemm.org (canning.wemm.org [192.203.228.65]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5898C43FCB; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 11:44:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) Received: from wemm.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by canning.wemm.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4196A2A89E; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 11:44:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: "Poul-Henning Kamp" Cc: Vincent Jardin , Tim Robbins , freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Removal of netns In-Reply-To: <40579.1046806441@critter.freebsd.dk> Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2003 11:44:00 -0800 From: Peter Wemm Message-Id: <20030304194400.4196A2A89E@canning.wemm.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Poul-Henning Kamp" wrote: > In message <200303042025.25227.vjardin@wanadoo.fr>, Vincent Jardin writes: > > >Why does it need to be removed ? According to me, it would be the same mista ke > >as the removal of netiso and netccitt. I did not know FreeBSD at this time, > >but nowadays, in order to get an OS that supports many stacks, we have to us e > >NetBSD. > > > >BSD4.4 was designed in order to support many stacks, FreeBSD 6, 7 ou 9 will > >support only IPv4 and IPv6, won't they ? > > We will import and retain any protocol stack which has enough interested > users and committers to keep it alive. > > netiso and netccitt both fell for both of those criteria: neither users > nor committers. > > netns fails both criteria too. Yep. It was removed in 1996 as well, because it didn't work. One company (Netcon) objected and claimed that they needed it for their commercial product and that they'd send fixes. Now, 7 years later, not a single person has shown the slightest interest in fixing it. It may as well have been left in the Attic the whole time. revision 1.7 date: 1996/10/17 18:42:19; author: jkh; state: Exp; lines: +3 -1 branches: 1.7.2; Bring back netns so that Netcon can take over support for it, as agreed. Cheers, -Peter -- Peter Wemm - peter@wemm.org; peter@FreeBSD.org; peter@yahoo-inc.com "All of this is for nothing if we don't go to the stars" - JMS/B5 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message