From owner-freebsd-hackers Fri Jan 10 09:49:29 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id JAA23081 for hackers-outgoing; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 09:49:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from Campino.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE (campino.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE [137.226.116.240]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id JAA22958 for ; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 09:46:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de [137.226.31.2]) by Campino.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE (RBI-Z-5/8.6.12) with ESMTP id SAA12333; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 18:48:35 +0100 (MET) Received: (from kuku@localhost) by gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (8.8.3/8.6.9) id SAA01138; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 18:46:31 +0100 (MET) From: Christoph Kukulies Message-Id: <199701101746.SAA01138@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> Subject: Re: A cool xterm? In-Reply-To: <199701101606.IAA03133@impulse.csl.sri.com> from Fred Gilham at "Jan 10, 97 08:06:53 am" To: gilham@csl.sri.com (Fred Gilham) Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 18:46:31 +0100 (MET) Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Reply-To: Christoph Kukulies X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > > Randal Hopper wrote: > ---------------------------------------- > Charles Henrich: > |Has anyone out there ever found a nice terminal window, something > |like Dec's mterm, or ssh for windows, or even better, NeXT's > |terminal? Xterm is peachy, except the scrollback just sucks :) > > Rebuilt the color_xterm port linking with Xaw3d instead of Xaw, and the > scrollbar's much better. Like the menus better too. ...with these resources: > ---------------------------------------- I put the resources Randal posted into my .Xdefaults and the following funny happens: (I rebuilt color_xterm with all Xaw refs changed to Xaw3d in the Makefile) Running fvwm95-2 my color_xterms that pop up initially (by .xinitrc - I'm using startx) have 3D-effect scrollbars and shaded edged pop up menues but with dithered gray shades rather than the colored shades. Only newly created color_xterms (launched from the tool bar) show the correct colors and solid colored shades. I event put the resources into .Xresources - no change. Any ideas? > > I'm wondering what this means. Is it that people don't like the fact > that the scrollbar works the way it does? Or is it that they don't > like the way it looks? What exactly is wrong with the scrollbar? > > To put my own oar in the water, I'll say that the original Athena > scrollbar is the only scrollbar I've seen with a decent user > interface. Once you get used to it, anything else is harder to use. > I hope there's always a scrollbar around with the Athena user > interface. > > -Fred Gilham gilham@csl.sri.com > --Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de