From nobody Tue Oct 21 21:11:53 2025 X-Original-To: current@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4crlNW22wKz6D1WX; Tue, 21 Oct 2025 21:11:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from saper@saper.info) Received: from q.saper.info (q.saper.info [IPv6:2605:2700:0:2:a800:ff:fec7:5c61]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature ECDSA (secp384r1) client-digest SHA384) (Client CN "q.saper.info", Issuer "E6" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4crlNV5hrjz44YX; Tue, 21 Oct 2025 21:11:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from saper@saper.info) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=saper.info header.s=Sep2014 header.b=EFOVPdcC; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of saper@saper.info has no SPF policy when checking 2605:2700:0:2:a800:ff:fec7:5c61) smtp.mailfrom=saper@saper.info Received: from q.saper.info (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by q.saper.info (8.18.1/8.18.1) with ESMTPS id 59LLBrXk044923 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 21 Oct 2025 21:11:54 GMT (envelope-from saper@saper.info) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=saper.info; s=Sep2014; t=1761081114; bh=jhTlIxRkKPMX+Us+/PIVscdwAybYzTMNaFNNMC6KRms=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References; b=EFOVPdcCaiCzWpRD/QIEs0ZKJx0yZ+jUlBVs6Nu+wJ4FxM68Z+waJ1argyiYDBSta myerwvX2U/HRQ1oKJ7Y0CO60IZljLv473FfV7Zj19R4EQcrUZ8/thPJudhwmL4pL6L kVXgY5QRCZEavOFPrgidQhwiKRZmxMNc1A1BFaSY= Received: from localhost (saper@localhost) by q.saper.info (8.18.1/8.18.1/Submit) with ESMTP id 59LLBrTW044920; Tue, 21 Oct 2025 21:11:53 GMT (envelope-from saper@saper.info) X-Authentication-Warning: q.saper.info: saper owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2025 21:11:53 +0000 From: Marcin Cieslak To: Lexi Winter cc: Olivier Certner , fs@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: openat("./...", O_CREAT) fails even though the directory exists In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <2507674.THHZn3L5Ee@ravel> List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha-256; boundary="2201072851-494370640-1761081113=:62059" X-Spamd-Bar: ----- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-5.40 / 15.00]; SIGNED_SMIME(-2.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[saper.info:s=Sep2014]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,text/plain]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; HAS_ATTACHMENT(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:47066, ipnet:2605:2700::/32, country:US]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; MISSING_XM_UA(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[saper.info]; RECEIVED_HELO_LOCALHOST(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[fs@freebsd.org,current@freebsd.org]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; HAS_XAW(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[saper.info:+] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4crlNV5hrjz44YX --2201072851-494370640-1761081113=:62059 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed On Mon, 13 Oct 2025, Lexi Winter wrote: > after some more debugging, i think what's going on here is that pkg(8) > is deleting and recreating /var/spool/mqueue on upgrade, which means > smmsp's open fd to that directory is no longer valid, and therefore > openat() returns this unusual error. (leaving the restart discussion on a side) I think mail spool queues should be left untouched by pkg(8). There might be some mail there waiting to be sent. 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