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From: Bruce M Simpson <bms@spc.org>
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Subject: Re: De-orbitting ATM-HARP
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On Sat, Apr 16, 2005 at 10:52:43PM +0200, Dag-Erling Sm=F8rgrav wrote:
> Bruce M Simpson <bms@spc.org> writes:
> > On Fri, Apr 15, 2005 at 05:41:57PM +0200, Harti Brandt wrote:
> > > While there I would also remove everything from netnatm that is
> > > not needed by NgATM. This is mainly the socket interface. I'm not
> > > aware of any application that uses it. Any thoughts on this?
> > Oh. Don't remove that. Userland PPP needs it. People who are using
> > ADSL modems of any kind will still need it.
>=20
> Uh?  PPP uses netgraph, which has its own socket thingy.

Fraid not. If you look at the source for ppp you will clearly see that it
opens an AF_NATM socket.

%%%
empiric:/usr/src/usr.sbin/ppp % grep NATM *
atm.c:  sock.snatm_family =3D AF_NATM;
atm.c:  p->fd =3D socket(PF_NATM, SOCK_DGRAM, PROTO_NATMAAL5);
%%%

BMS

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