From owner-freebsd-hackers Fri Feb 2 0:19:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from hermes.research.kpn.com (hermes.research.kpn.com [139.63.192.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A67F937B491 for ; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 00:18:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from l04.research.kpn.com (l04.research.kpn.com [139.63.192.204]) by research.kpn.com (PMDF V5.2-31 #42699) with ESMTP id <01JZMOEGNJPI0008TI@research.kpn.com> for freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 09:18:55 +0100 Received: by l04.research.kpn.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 02 Feb 2001 09:18:54 +0100 Content-return: allowed Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2001 09:18:53 +0100 From: "Koster, K.J." Subject: RE: Realtek card support To: 'Coleman Kane' , Warner Losh Cc: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Message-id: <59063B5B4D98D311BC0D0001FA7E4522026D7BA4@l04.research.kpn.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dear All, > > I usually don't recommend the 8139/29 for anything that is > expected to work consistently. The cards work alright, but > I prefer to stick to Digital or Intel based NICs for > important tasks. > While it's obviously well established that these cards should be used as doorstops (and they would even suck at that) my idea was that there may be someone out there who can make the driver at least not hang up the line. Force it hard to 10mbit, or even reset the card for each and every packet sent, fork the code for this chip into src/pci/if_sucks.c, but at least make it work. I don't intent to use this brand for anything but toilet paper, but I keep running into people who have these cards. If people in the store and have to choose between a us$20 realtek and a us$100 3com they go for the realtek. Right now we're sending them back to the store to spend the extra us$80. I'd find the person who'd make the driver work around this card a hero. Kees Jan ================================================ You are only young once, but you can stay immature all your life. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message