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Date:      Mon, 11 Dec 2000 18:40:18 -0600 (CST)
From:      Mike Meyer <mwm@mired.org>
To:        kstewart@urx.com
Cc:        questions@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: mergemaster
Message-ID:  <14901.29682.7392.873018@guru.mired.org>
In-Reply-To: <3A357248.F363E2DA@urx.com>
References:  <14901.27724.457583.502180@guru.mired.org> <3A357248.F363E2DA@urx.com>

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Kent Stewart <kstewart@urx.com> types:
> Mike Meyer wrote:
> > Artem Koutchine <matrix@ipform.ru> types:
> > > I wonder if this procedure can be a little bit more automatic. For example,
> > > the mergmaster checks if the file have been actually changed, and it was not
> > > (from the original file of the prev mergmaster) than it can pretty much
> > > install a new
> > > version of it, otherwiese - ask the user. The problem is to determine
> > > whether it was
> > > changed :)
> > 
> > I suggested one way of doing that to the author, but never got a reply
> > back. The idea was to add an option that does two things: 1) installs
> > new files r/o (but not merged files); 2) if files are installed r/o,
> > quietly install the new one.
> > 
> > The act of editing a file should leave it r/w, thus automatically
> > tagging new files.
> > 
> > And it wouldn't work for me :-(, so I haven't implemented it.
> 
> That doesn't work because you can :w! to write the file and it will
> still be r/o.

Um, if I type :w! at my editor, it generally just inserts those
characters.

It doesn't work for me because I keep my config files in Perforce,
which uses the same technic for deciding if I've touched a file
without telling it.

> There are files that I don't want it to touch but I also want to know
> something has changed. I had to think the cvsup's refuse file was a
> good idea. Creating one for Mergemaster is something else. 

Well, you don't want what Artem wanted, which was that it
automatically update files that you haven't changed. I discussed a
method of adding an OPTION (<- Key word, that) to mergemaster to make
it do that, and why I didn't do it myself. If it ever got added, you
would simply not turn on that option.

> I turn off x-windows and do my world updates from a 2nd computer. The
> systems are pretty quiet when I do this. That leaves the files not
> touched in scrollable window when I run mergemaster. I come along
> afterwards and check the changes by hand in a different window and
> make them by hand if they are simple. Adding the header information to
> your modified file seems to keep it from bothering you in the future.

Actually, if you have x clients installed on the system you are
upgrading, you can run start an xterm from it's console in single user
mode, and have it display on any X server you please. That's how I
manage to do long installs without being stuck in a machine room.

	<mike
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