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[213.147.162.120]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id ffacd0b85a97d-466667882f7sm28900303f8f.21.2026.06.22.11.03.43 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 22 Jun 2026 11:03:44 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2026 20:03:40 +0200 From: Bugs Beastie To: Mark Millard Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Message-ID: <7713568e-c6b1-4f15-b0ba-f71926a7a758@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <425002c8-8e70-458c-be12-db81c6ebdf51@yahoo.com> References: <20260622182407.4cf248d31f3d8eefab0474b4@dec.sakura.ne.jp> <425002c8-8e70-458c-be12-db81c6ebdf51@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: 16-CURRENT non root users unable to use sound/beep anymore after upgrade to a4ed783cee2a List-Id: Technical discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-hackers List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: List-Owner: Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Correlation-ID: <7713568e-c6b1-4f15-b0ba-f71926a7a758@gmail.com> X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4gkbfp6xggz3h29 X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated Jun 22, 2026 19:48:04 Mark Millard : > On 6/22/26 03:04, polyduekes@proton.me wrote: >> On Monday, June 22nd, 2026 at 2:54 PM, Tomoaki AOKI wrote: >> >>> On Mon, 22 Jun 2026 06:23:36 +0000 >>> polyduekes@proton.me wrote: >>> >>>> has something been recently changed in regards to user permissions for= /dev/dsp,i updated my 16-current system after some days and am noticing th= at now a non root user which was able to access /dev/dsp and play sound is = now unable to do so and fails with Failed to open '/dev/dsp': Permission de= nied >>> >>> You'll need to add the user who need to access audio devices >>> to recently added audio group (gid=3D43) just like you'll be doing >>> for X11/Wayland screens for video (gid=3D44) group. >>> >>> IIRC, audio group is added to stable/15, too, but switches for >>> audio device to audio group is NOT merged not to violate POLA. >>> >>> This is described in /usr/src/UPDATING at the entry dated 20260521. >>> =C2=A0 https://cgit.freebsd.org/src/tree/UPDATING#n42 >>> >>> Please habitally confirm UPDATING. I believe it should be >>> a good habit. >>> >>> Regards. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Tomoaki AOKI=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 >>> >> sorry i forgot to clarify properly,i didn't anticipate a failed merge of= /etc/group by pkg during upgrade, i had checked the available groups after= upgrade but audio group wasn't available due to the failed merge(at that p= oint i wasn't aware the merge failed) so i assumed it wasn't the problem >> >> thanks for the reminder about UPDATING entries,they slipped my mind >> >> > > I could imagine that, for now, it would be good if, at the very end of > its output, pkg upgrade or pkg install reported on how many *.pkgnew > files and/or *.pkgsave files had been had been generated, at least when > the number is positive. It would prompt to investigate. > +1 on the warning at the end of the pkg session!