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Date:      Mon, 15 Dec 1997 22:54:09 -0600 (CST)
From:      Jay Nelson <jdn@qiv.com>
To:        "Matthew D. Fuller" <fullermd@futuresouth.com>
Cc:        Stephen Cooper <stephen.cooper@alphawest.com.au>, mlduke@concentric.net, questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   RE: RE: Pretty Stuff
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.3.96.971215211041.1974A-100000@acp.qiv.com>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.3.96.971215202235.18278A-100000@shell.futuresouth.com>

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If you need M$WORD compatibility, your choices are pretty much limited
to commercial products. The Andrew system includes a word procesor
which does most basic word processing type things and exports rtf --
which Micro$**t products will read with varying degrees of success.
Corel also, I think, has a Java version of an office wuite which may
interest you.

TeX and kin (LaTeX is a macro package for TeX) is a _markup_ language.
I use it all the time and love it. It is -- in fact -- the grandaddy
of commercial typesetting systems. But be prepared to belly up to the
bar. The learning curve is steep. 

Lyx is a delightful WYIWYG package that will do most word processing
chores and is based on Tex (LaTeX, really) and is _much_ more useable
than WORD or its clones but is not importable into commercial word
processors. Also, don't overlook troff as a mark up tool.

The choices seem to boil down to this, a) use a commercial product to
get as much and as little as you have seen in the DOS/ETC world or b)
use a Unix tool which gives you all the power and flexibility you
could want (and is portable to almost all other systems except M$WORD).

I will (can't resist) make the observation that Micro$**t has made it
possible for more people to churn out more crap in less time than ever
before possible. As an ex typsetter, I find that offensive. 

Try Lyx -- I think it's the best of both worlds.

-- Jay

On Mon, 15 Dec 1997, Matthew D. Fuller wrote:

    > On Tue, 16 Dec 1997, Stephen Cooper wrote:
    > 
    > > On Tuesday, December 16, 1997 7:26 AM, mlduke@concentric.net
    > > [SMTP:mlduke@concentric.net] wrote:
    > > > On Mon, 15 Dec 1997, Stephen Cooper wrote:
    > > > > > (I'm running 2.22.-RELEASE) that will left/right justify text and
    > > do
    > > > > bold
    > > > > > print and such?
    > > > > 
    > > > > hmm, i would be interested in such a thing. did you recieve any
    > > replies?
    > > > > 
    > > > Your's is the  first. I'll let you know if I learn anything.
    > > > I have a hunch the question is a bit too "stupid" for most
    > > > list members.
    > > > 
    > > > Duke
    > > 
    > > I dont think your question is stupid. All of us have to do reports
    > > eventuallly.
    > > 
    > > I have had a lot of exposure to various unix environments, there are not
    > > many wordprocessors in general for Unix, Applixware make one, Frame make
    > > another. (Neither of which work under BSD) Wordperfect as I understand
    > > it has been ported to BSDI, which is supposed to work on FreeBSD due to
    > > binary compatibility. As you can imagine, it is not Freeware ;)
    > You might want to look into StarOffice; I've heard that it does well
    > (under Linux emulation, of course, since it's a Linux app).  Or, if you're
    > adventurous, look at LaTeX, which is a text formatting language (kinda
    > like HTML).  Basically, you write it in any text editor including tags for
    > things like bold, italic, center, etc.  Then you run it through a filter
    > on it's way to the printer, and it comes out formatted.  I image there's a
    > previewer available; there may even be editors that can save in LaTeX
    > format.  I'm not a LaTeX expert; I just know that it exists; someone else
    > can probably tell you more.
    > 
    > > 
    > > Steve
    > > 
    > 
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