From owner-freebsd-acpi@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 27 17:03:50 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 737D916A4DD for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2006 17:03:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nate@root.org) Received: from ylpvm43.prodigy.net (ylpvm43-ext.prodigy.net [207.115.57.74]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 242DB43D83 for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2006 17:03:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nate@root.org) Received: from pimout6-ext.prodigy.net (pimout6-int.prodigy.net [207.115.4.22]) by ylpvm43.prodigy.net (8.12.10 outbound/8.12.10) with ESMTP id k6RH3a4O014040 for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2006 13:03:36 -0400 X-ORBL: [67.119.74.222] Received: from [10.0.0.53] (adsl-67-119-74-222.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net [67.119.74.222]) by pimout6-ext.prodigy.net (8.13.6 out.dk/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k6RH3Vij141714; Thu, 27 Jul 2006 13:03:32 -0400 Message-ID: <44C8F1DC.8050201@root.org> Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 10:03:24 -0700 From: Nate Lawson User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.2 (X11/20060501) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Dana H. Myers" References: <20060724215014.GA89464@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <200607241823.24477.jhb@freebsd.org> <20060725201556.GA97140@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <200607261505.38960.jhb@freebsd.org> <20060726192106.GA4693@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <44C7C8DA.3090402@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <44C7C8DA.3090402@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org, Steve Kargl Subject: Re: Alienware acpi problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: ACPI and power management development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 17:03:50 -0000 Dana H. Myers wrote: > Steve Kargl wrote: >> On Wed, Jul 26, 2006 at 03:05:38PM -0400, John Baldwin wrote: >>> You have some of the most incompetent BIOS writers I've ever seen working on >>> your machine I'm afraid. >> It's a Phoenix BIOS. > > Actually, I don't think Phoenix gets all the blame. I believe > that Phoenix provides a toolkit which board manufacturers customize. > So it's probably not Phoenix writing the bum ASL you're seeing. That's correct. Phoenix produces a tool that has some example ASL. The Chinese/Taiwanese company that actually makes the laptop (e.g., Compal) subcontracts out the BIOS customization to an small firm (2 guys) that bang on it until it boots Windows. -- Nate