From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Jul 11 22:48:49 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA03059 for hackers-outgoing; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 22:48:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA03054 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 22:48:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id WAA00642; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 22:42:43 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199607120542.WAA00642@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: Some recent changes to GENERIC To: michaelv@HeadCandy.com (Michael L. VanLoon -- HeadCandy.com) Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 22:42:43 -0700 (MST) Cc: terry@lambert.org, joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, jkh@time.cdrom.com In-Reply-To: <199607110450.VAA01629@MindBender.HeadCandy.com> from "Michael L. VanLoon -- HeadCandy.com" at Jul 10, 96 09:50:14 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > >> Maybe I have a bad attitude, but... This is Unix. If they can't or > >> don't want to build their own kernel, they should be running Windows > >> or OS/2. > > Terry writes: > >This is Unix, the most sophisticated OS available. It should support > >use of fallback drivers and dynamic loading of replacement devices > >as needed, so if they can't or won't build their own kernel, it will > >have no effect on their ability to run the system, one way or another. > > Well, yeah, that's a great goal. But, how do we solve the ATI/S3/com4 > conflict and kernel bloat with the source base that exists _right_ > _now_ in 2.1.5 (and/or NetBSD 1.2)? Better ideas? You punt for 2.1.5. I pointed at the ATI code to let someone integrate a patch "unsullied by Terry's grandiose ideas", which would have creeped in had I done a patch, and which seems to be a sticking point for many for a lot of patches. You can't hit a target if you never aim at it. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers.