From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Fri Feb 17 07:37:38 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44AE8CE2F49 for ; Fri, 17 Feb 2017 07:37:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from abi@abinet.ru) Received: from mail.abinet.ru (mail.abinet.ru [136.243.72.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 079EE1489 for ; Fri, 17 Feb 2017 07:37:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from abi@abinet.ru) Received: from sphinx.abinet.ru (unknown [192.168.2.1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.abinet.ru (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9E4C63CCE1; Fri, 17 Feb 2017 07:37:30 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=abinet.ru; s=dkim; t=1487317051; bh=w9u/aE1S643oS9KE7z2p4G9fQHcx0Gzf2gny3vjnqiw=; h=Subject:To:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To; b=Hs91pouHZjHyfHMv/9zcZj1AYQtef+aBXX6Ojafjm5zTYkwT6tK+N5uQmyfb+C+PB MJcTXwY8VdNZNTWTcXYV7nhot8HLY2Id/l8BdlASluNKgEF1jwwSAfkP1H3m9XBjS5 3lJjWPpxRPueO/RsYoHnyKF+Z33ZhVg5+cRalKKg= Subject: Re: The future of portmaster To: Chris H , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org References: <945f6d92-6834-7e2c-18c4-0a17e2c04122@columbus.rr.com> <44shneot7h.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <079d97d0-8dc7-8dcd-460e-86644f12b900@columbus.rr.com> <1244d826-e4ae-97a9-6033-8a1c79c2da9e@m5p.com> <7d0525ee-980e-a63a-f90f-974a7e1022cf@columbus.rr.com> <9ffa861978cdb1a06a69d7b9af525ad5@ultimatedns.net> From: abi Message-ID: <8cdf045f-a333-0fcf-c1ab-2fea2114e384@abinet.ru> Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2017 10:37:16 +0300 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9ffa861978cdb1a06a69d7b9af525ad5@ultimatedns.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,T_DKIM_INVALID, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY autolearn=disabled version=3.4.1 X-Spam-Report: * 0.8 BAYES_50 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 40 to 60% * [score: 0.5000] * 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid * 0.0 UNPARSEABLE_RELAY Informational: message has unparseable relay lines X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on postfix.abinet.ru X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2017 07:37:38 -0000 17.02.2017 00:22, Chris H пишет: > On Thu, 16 Feb 2017 15:48:57 -0500 Baho Utot wrote > >> On 02/16/17 15:40, George Mitchell wrote: >>> On 02/16/17 15:33, Baho Utot wrote: >>>> >>>> On 02/16/17 14:01, Lowell Gilbert wrote: >>>>> Baho Utot writes: >>>>> >>>>>> On 02/16/17 06:08, Luca Pizzamiglio wrote: >>>>>>> I'm looking for constructive critics, feedbacks, anything that can >>>>>>> help me to make portmaster an actively maintained and used tool. >>>>>> If you can have it build in a clean chroot or jail then you'll get my >>>>>> attention >>>>> What kind of special support? >>>>> >>>>> I use it with a chroot that mounts /usr/ports (and src) read-only, and >>>>> aside from the initial base system install, it took about fifteen >>>>> minutes to set up. >>>>> >>>> Using chroot or jails to build each individual package >>>> [...] >>> While I understand the interest in chroot/jails as an optional >>> feature, I hope it doesn't become required. The current non-use >>> of chroot/jails is, for me, a feature -- not a bug. -- George >>> >>> >> Having built and packaged linux from scratch using the rpm package >> manager, I came to find that if one is building packages to be used on >> multiple machines, one needs to build each package in a chroot >> environment or the package could inherit things from the parent not >> found in the target machine. Here by making the package unusable. > Hello. You shouldn't have any difficulty accomplishing your goal > by simply setting up a jail, and using portmaster within that jail(8). > portmaster really doesn't care where it's run. So long as it has > everything it needs to accomplish it's job(s). :-) > From my point of view, jails are overkill. Chroot should be enough and it would be nice if portmaster starts building in clean environment.