From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 27 15:23:33 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83EAB1065673 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 15:23:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andy@balholm.com) Received: from mail.my180.net (pop1-levy.go180.net [216.229.186.150]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4701A8FC08 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 15:23:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 19294 invoked by uid 0); 27 Jul 2010 15:23:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.0.2?) (andy@balholm.com@63.224.217.218) by mail.my180.net with ESMTPA; 27 Jul 2010 15:23:31 -0000 From: Andy Balholm Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 08:23:30 -0700 Message-Id: To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1081) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1081) Cc: perrin@apotheon.com, mckusick@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: BSD logo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 15:23:33 -0000 Chad Perrin wrote: > Andy Balholm wrote: >> although the UNIX term "daemon" is not satanic in origin, some = aspects >> of Beastie's appearance are obviously derived from traditional >> depictions of the Devil.=20 >=20 > Really? Are you sure they weren't derived from something else -- = perhaps > a source in common for the "traditional" depictions of the devil? = There > may be a common source for both, rather than one being the source of = the > other. Correlation does not imply causation. Did you ask the = original > Beastie artist for confirmation that he was consciously emulating = images > of the Christian devil, or did you just jump to a conclusion like the = OP? I jumped to a conclusion, but I'll stand by it until someone shows me = the ancient common source. I don't recall anything that looks much like = Beastie in Greek art. When someone in the modern western culture decides to draw a daemon and = it comes out looking like a "demon," the most plausible explanation is = that he was influenced=97consciously or unconsciously=97by this = culture's traditional way of depicting demons. In fact, not being = influenced by that tradition would take a conscious effort. So I find = that far more likely than an obscure common source. Note that I am not attributing the resemblance to any "fiendish" = motives. I expect the artist just found the pun too good to pass up. = I'll CC him in case he wants to comment on his sources, since you think = he should be asked. Andy Balholm (509) 276-2065 andy@balholm.com