From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 17:12:40 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD5F0106566B for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2012 17:12:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mozolevsky@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pw0-f54.google.com (mail-pw0-f54.google.com [209.85.160.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C58A8FC16 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2012 17:12:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pbdx13 with SMTP id x13so3651697pbd.13 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2012 09:12:40 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=P7DDEUK3jRYTt85Co2VmxkDDkhIpHYsantAM39rW43I=; b=r3wHlZF19KwTjrVte+lNRqV5NfrWlhJH2B7+ISRGjKtJPsNXgDXXHzOmaw4atXv3Pg U4dtoVv1Z1VdOfYHSHMf9egu+Bo1ayrnvUdSUz/lAsvFps1sChdUlkt9M/aZyfwgVAIY VBhlqI16rLOWTWxHzvj9czpO7Io2M7np0Sy14= Received: by 10.68.74.170 with SMTP id u10mr44557507pbv.99.1326906760108; Wed, 18 Jan 2012 09:12:40 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: mozolevsky@gmail.com Received: by 10.68.28.199 with HTTP; Wed, 18 Jan 2012 09:11:59 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <03da01ccd603$94aca490$be05edb0$@fisglobal.com> References: <4F15C44F.1030208@freebsd.org> <03da01ccd603$94aca490$be05edb0$@fisglobal.com> From: Igor Mozolevsky Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 17:11:59 +0000 X-Google-Sender-Auth: ev2JRFR2uSSBmOpRXvzJnAOizsk Message-ID: To: Devin Teske Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, Mark Felder Subject: Re: FreeBSD has serious problems with focus, longevity, and lifecycle X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 17:12:40 -0000 On 18 January 2012 17:06, Devin Teske wrote: > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd- >> hackers@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Julian Elischer >> Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 10:56 AM >> To: Mark Felder >> Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org >> Subject: Re: FreeBSD has serious problems with focus, longevity, and lif= ecycle >> > [snip] > >> Where I used to work (Devin Teske is now there) =C2=A0we used to use the= 'stable' >> branch and rolll our own releases. >> the criticality of those systems was hard to over-emphasize. In 2005 we = worked >> out we processed 1.5 trillion dollars of transactions on those systems. >> > > Got new stats. In 2011 we ran $1.61T USD through FreeBSD. > > Separately, we ran another $0.05T USD through Linux in the same year. > > Kinda says something about, doesn't it? Sorry to burst your bubble but this is utterly meaningless statistic. You show nothing but correlation and in no way a causation. Back in the days when the UK banks ran ATMs, &c on Windows NT (I have no idea what they are running now) they went through a lot more "value" than that---means absolutely nothing... -- Igor M.