From owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Thu Feb 1 09:51:41 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93460ED8FE3 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2018 09:51:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from phk.freebsd.dk (phk.freebsd.dk [130.225.244.222]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2964E81BF4 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2018 09:51:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (unknown [192.168.55.3]) by phk.freebsd.dk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 334AC27379; Thu, 1 Feb 2018 09:51:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id w119pFpw005017 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 1 Feb 2018 09:51:15 GMT (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: (from phk@localhost) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id w119pEGQ005016; Thu, 1 Feb 2018 09:51:14 GMT (envelope-from phk) To: Warner Losh cc: "freebsd-arch@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Feedback on proposed loader changes In-reply-to: From: "Poul-Henning Kamp" References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <5014.1517478674.1@critter.freebsd.dk> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2018 09:51:14 +0000 Message-ID: <5015.1517478674@critter.freebsd.dk> X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2018 09:51:41 -0000 -------- In message , Warner Losh writes: >So I'd like feedback on two questions: Should I kill the forth features I >oulined above? And should I make the build system build multiple loaders >with a link controlling the default? I think you should just move forward and go for the end-stage without too many temporary bandaids. The loader is pretty decoupled from everything, so in case anybody needs any of these Forth cornercases, they can use 11.X loader with very little, if any, trouble. -- = Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe = Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence= .