From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Nov 21 09:00:33 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA05589 for hackers-outgoing; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 09:00:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from ravenock.cybercity.dk (disn53.cybercity.dk [194.16.57.53]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA05575; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 09:00:26 -0800 (PST) Received: (from sos@localhost) by ravenock.cybercity.dk (8.8.2/8.7.3) id SAA01512; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 18:01:06 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <199611211701.SAA01512@ravenock.cybercity.dk> Subject: Re: Who needs Perl? We do! To: p.richards@elsevier.co.uk (Paul Richards) Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 18:01:06 +0100 (MET) From: "Soren Schmidt" Cc: sos@FreeBSD.org, hackers@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <57n2wb8lnl.fsf@tees.elsevier.co.uk> from "Paul Richards" at Nov 21, 96 04:20:46 pm From: sos@FreeBSD.org Reply-to: sos@FreeBSD.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25 ME8b] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In reply to Paul Richards who wrote: > > > Soren Schmidt writes: > > > I have a very good example, I stated some month back that I'd > > take reponsibility of the atapi/ide driver and do a rewrite, > > because there was ALOT of talk about how miserable our current > > implementation was. I also stated that in order to do that I > > needed some samples of atapi/ide equipment as I dont have the > > funding for doing that (and given I had I'd buy SCSI :) ) > > but I didn't get ONE single reponse of that kind, no sir, but > > I got alot of "let me test it, gimme, gimme, gimme". > > C'mon. You make valid point generally but this last paragraph is > silly. I'm not surprised that you haven't received any > hardware. People don't happen to have kit just sitting there doing > nothing, it's generally all they've got and they can't just send it > off to some developer somewhere, I seem to remember your conditions > regarding their return weren't very encouraging either. This is even > more the case for people with IDE kit (no offense implied to anyone > here) since it's generally budget kit so people aren't going to send > off hardware they've struggled to save for. > > I think this is a very unfair generalisation, *most* FreeBSD users are > on tight budgets and those that aren't are SCSI shops anyway and I > tend to find that SCSI folks would rather see IDE die :-) Catch-22... > I'd be encouraged by the fact that a lot of people were willing to > volunteer their time to test it. Sure, but it doesn't work that way unfortunately... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Søren Schmidt (sos@FreeBSD.org) FreeBSD Core Team Even more code to hack -- will it ever end ..