From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 22 05:16:49 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7E18734F for ; Sat, 22 Feb 2014 05:16:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-la0-x22e.google.com (mail-la0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c03::22e]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E6C55118E for ; Sat, 22 Feb 2014 05:16:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-la0-f46.google.com with SMTP id b8so3138021lan.5 for ; Fri, 21 Feb 2014 21:16:47 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=zCqwBWJ5uvOW4sobHVqcTqVD87dHhf9jbURERf3fDu4=; b=MCeIUTBL6imNpi9czutbibEbf9YO4rOf92ux+U4XUBftDsseIgGPGkJv6MKJREu0+e eQLMVOoAxbt25JaUArDt4wbzqdVIbImMwnMQFNuYCiEWkud5IcFYyNvwCXdm+E40OKgd zTAyPHjcGoygCxa/tUEbPSmnEQ3QFYSTvDENpvhEtztkjNhGQKUbfa+qDvm5ey16Eu62 0xQ1hdrsgEJf4lM8psqRdYvAH8XbhdNX3diew6b8PtoDJshUzJit9R+VeK+ZowaGwI7b 9+zx2HYNvjZGgzyujzhf/kj/EkFUKWIo+DXTWPYtNECwx8LaxnIvHkE/sEpvIqwqXyVl YyHA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.129.168 with SMTP id nx8mr5780703lbb.37.1393046206899; Fri, 21 Feb 2014 21:16:46 -0800 (PST) Sender: rizzo.unipi@gmail.com Received: by 10.115.4.162 with HTTP; Fri, 21 Feb 2014 21:16:46 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <53082EC5.3060709@allanjude.com> References: <20140218072821.GF34282@FreeBSD.org> <5308099F.4090706@freebsd.org> <53082EC5.3060709@allanjude.com> Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2014 21:16:46 -0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 4JpqLj7Zok9K_9jjv6rg7gC8aik Message-ID: Subject: Re: BSD XXI Manifesto [agree] [intersting] From: Luigi Rizzo To: Allan Jude Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.17 Cc: freebsd-current X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2014 05:16:49 -0000 On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 8:59 PM, Allan Jude wrote: > On 2014-02-21 21:21, Julian Elischer wrote: > > On 2/18/14, 3:28 PM, Wojciech A. Koszek wrote: > >> (cross-posted message: eventual discussion let's keep on hackers@) > >> > >> Hello, > >> > >> After being disappointed with the list of submitted FreeBSD ideas, I > >> created > >> my own Machiavellist vision of XXI-century FreeBSD. I paste it below. > >> If you > >> want to add something, it's here: > >> > >> https://wiki.freebsd.org/BSD_XXI_Manifesto > >> > >> GSOC students could use this as an inspiration for their projects. The > >> idea > >> is to invite non-C, non-OS, non-kernel developers to help out with > >> FreeBSD > >> stuff. > >> > >> ============ > >> > >> BSDXXI manifesto > > [nice stuff] removed for brevity > > > > I like all this.. I thought you meant XXI to mean the "FreeBSD's 21st > > year" > > but there is more than one year's worth of stuff there. > > > > I really suggest people seriously look at the list.. lots of really neat > > ideas. > > peole who are not necessarily C coders could do lots of this if we had a > > project to gather people under to do it. > > PCBSD people would be a core of interested people.. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > I can see the remote controlled installer being especially useful for > 'appliance' type devices, like FreeNAS, pfSense, FUDO, etc. > > yes i agree the approach is nice. what is unfortunate is that sometimes these appliances are in environments where there is no [open] wireless access so one might consider bringing two usb sticks -- the disk image and a wifi. > How would your phone find the address of the machine once it boots off > the USB, so you could access the web server? > I presume UPNP can come to help here. Otherwise the appliance can try and encode the information with one of the following methods (with a matching app on the phone): - with a QR code on the screen, if it has one; - playing tones on the speakers, if it has one; - flashing leds (e.g. some USB keys have 'activity' leds) cheers luigi