Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2016 08:03:58 +0200 From: Mathias Picker <Mathias.Picker@virtual-earth.de> To: Kevin Oberman <rkoberman@gmail.com>,Mark Linimon <linimon@lonesome.com> Cc: "freebsd-x11@freebsd.org" <freebsd-x11@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: gfx-next update: drm-4.8-rc2 tagged in drm-next Message-ID: <F5DEF606-4C4B-464A-9CDB-E519BCB37250@virtual-earth.de> In-Reply-To: <CAN6yY1vPzjvMyc%2Bxxs587EpwgGe6%2BCAdXqYjw66YjZafT4YUfg@mail.gmail.com> References: <CAGhTqAXdNBTbdvSzBUFaOMY10jEMy6MehNqN%2BFfdZVpZ5Y1Rbg@mail.gmail.com> <439e20fa-6385-68fb-c97e-24705ebd2f94@nomadlogic.org> <157496f7268.ac5eb5ca278618.8741026532558973404@nextbsd.org> <3FEE7DD3-C408-4398-9F0B-5529B2E7A61F@transactionware.com> <1574b8980bc.106a6e9ef306540.4216158444646545056@nextbsd.org> <20160926192637.33f7921b@azsupport.com> <157683d1ec0.11a09775b76996.945490951353894015@nextbsd.org> <20160927031041.31b6f90a@azsupport.com> <157693fc60a.ebf27bd286215.2625530085502855667@nextbsd.org> <20160927033819.2670e3f1@azsupport.com> <20160927015534.GA1345@lonesome.com> <CAN6yY1vPzjvMyc%2Bxxs587EpwgGe6%2BCAdXqYjw66YjZafT4YUfg@mail.gmail.com>
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yes. Yes. YES! Am 27. September 2016 07:07:37 MESZ, schrieb Kevin Oberman <rkoberman@gmail.com>: >OK. It's time to cut this crap out! This is why people talk about >FreeBSD >development being a hostile place. This sort of thing is why! If you >want >to discourage competent people from working on FreeBSD, this is an >excellent way. > >For years the FreeBSD support for X has lagged way behind. This was >true >even before things like KMS made it much harder for for FreeBSD to >track >development. The FreeBSD Foundation has had to hire people to move >FreeBSD >to just a three or four years. Or, in computer years, about a two or >three >decades. > >Now someone comes along and puts in the amazing amount of work into >moving >FreeBSD's X to a point that is very near the state of the art and move >the >infrastructure it sits on to one that is sufficiently maintainable so >that >FreeBSD can hope to stay there. > >The people who did this are not people who have a history of major >FreeBSD >contributions and have a real desire to help FreeBSD as well as its >derivatives. They do the work. They work with FreeBSD on the >freebsd-x11@ >users to get testing done, and, when it looks good, submit it to >Phabricator for review, and ask for review. NextBSD was never mentioned >and >suddenly someone jumps up and yells "Go away. We don't serve your kind >here!". Just because he works on NextBSD. Tell you what... move it to >freebsd-advacocy@ where this sort of thing belongs or just go away. Let >Matthew get this done. If anyone is banned from the list, it's Andrei. >(And >I am NOT advocating that.) > >Kevin Oberman, Part time kid herder and retired Network Engineer >E-mail: rkoberman@gmail.com >PGP Fingerprint: D03FB98AFA78E3B78C1694B318AB39EF1B055683 > >On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 6:55 PM, Mark Linimon <linimon@lonesome.com> >wrote: > >> On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 03:38:19AM +0200, Andrei wrote: >> > If you really want to help FreeBSD community, then don't talk >bullshit >> > and send patches to CURRENT. >> >> Phabricator is an official project resource. >> >> It and FreeBSD's Bugzilla instance are the recommended ways to submit >> patches for review. >> >> Postings to mailing lists can be overlooked due to all the noise. >> >> mcl >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-x11@freebsd.org mailing list >> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-x11 >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >"freebsd-x11-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-x11@freebsd.org mailing list >https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-x11 >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-x11-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Diese Nachricht wurde von meinem Android-Mobiltelefon mit K-9 Mail gesendet. From owner-freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Tue Sep 27 06:57:03 2016 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-x11@freebsd.org> Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 934DABEBAD3 for <freebsd-x11@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org>; Tue, 27 Sep 2016 06:57:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrnils@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vk0-x229.google.com (mail-vk0-x229.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c05::229]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4E918234 for <freebsd-x11@freebsd.org>; Tue, 27 Sep 2016 06:57:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrnils@gmail.com) Received: by mail-vk0-x229.google.com with SMTP id 192so4568762vkl.2 for <freebsd-x11@freebsd.org>; Mon, 26 Sep 2016 23:57:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=F1nzCKxkS+pUxAv/5MrHkm8Hjg3M7iFkLI0+GD6tYkA=; b=CkdqFHUylyKPlkmoG/qUg029B7MI4rbH0AEWiSiwuRNzztJHVV6ZTSyMTQIhfmZNsk DP1y6ehX/dCkS7Aok6PkEWXs+BQguBSlbYNOUpt5SNZ8DdbVMfeI1Ew2FISP82KPcgdh smQjy25vFm0SbIBaprIyaKzAbvhCwCFodQn2K5E3tX2K8wpS/P2FIQjJ46P0dzPswJKx eDT8ZybJvPP5w66+F1UQvW12YG1uXI8FeqQnGQmuTl9cCy5agKFN+o77ECl9lvK+SEbX OwsgTTIbWeXP+VnW1pPT28wLCfkjps4i40Th98WiEzjA2DwZpKVY3yq5uz/zmLWn3pXT UY2w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=F1nzCKxkS+pUxAv/5MrHkm8Hjg3M7iFkLI0+GD6tYkA=; b=R8+0oxGtxiiIH5bxdIPeP685kTfnVBcBhrZP2L63O9et3rhUKiySpsgce9fgxk0H82 7AjB85ApL8SOMTW/HlJzOU6te6nWCDCWw4zBv5jDJuUPtt129zMLY+DHAm/EzdsYVj4v LLONfO3s0qZoFwLdGXyWDUQptYILYIKiGMRPChF+LeZZwEKySuZpLpMCjNQ780Hkzb4+ h1n3mPGZ6kCSxdaEYrM1YzJ+2qK7mkz+H94zq86MzPNNQIs5NKcOKB5d9zv9NAJIw/YW o75HGXvReFmSyEPPSadL2pHU/V7TYRkyui1V0619eA87VvXlyCttGMh/uLIVA8ta61Nb loiA== X-Gm-Message-State: AA6/9RkFP6wNkhGCF7dYG/zS4gRINRexUEo+M0KzSHr0ulqQNgBjrNLSQUEBAznQWkv59Y6/YVbRmzHx4EmClQ== X-Received: by 10.31.41.23 with SMTP id p23mr12465685vkp.10.1474959422124; Mon, 26 Sep 2016 23:57:02 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.176.3.138 with HTTP; Mon, 26 Sep 2016 23:57:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Andreas Nilsson <andrnils@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2016 08:57:01 +0200 Message-ID: <CAPS9+SsKJ+3DBqakH1vFfM2wVWUdfr=J=W9_Ra6b+vzLaWv0bg@mail.gmail.com> Subject: gfx-next future in ports ( was gfx-next update: drm-4.8-rc2 tagged in drm-next ) To: FreeBSD X11 mailing list <freebsd-x11@freebsd.org>, Matthew Macy <mmacy@nextbsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support <freebsd-x11.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/options/freebsd-x11>, <mailto:freebsd-x11-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-x11/>; List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-x11@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-x11-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-x11>, <mailto:freebsd-x11-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2016 06:57:03 -0000 Hello, first, thanks for the amazing work Matthew and everyone else! > > Eventually all the requisite patches to sys will make it in at which > > point drm-next-<n> will become available as a port allowing one to > > install the drivers just as one installs xorg and the ddx today. > > Keeping it as a port will allow us to decouple freebsd releases from > > graphics developments making it possible to support the latest > > hardware on near EOL branches. Does this mean that all kms-enabled drivers will be removed from the main tree and shipped as ports, or will the ports modules have higher priority and be loaded before the ones included in GENERIC? I met quite a few people at EuroBSDcon running drm-next-4.7 on recent intel cpuswith great success. The only lacking bits seems to be brightness adjustment and suspend2ram ( screen remains off ). Is there anybody to nudge/sponsor to have those areas looked into? Best regards Andreas
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