From owner-freebsd-advocacy Fri Mar 26 2:29: 8 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from iquest3.iquest.net (iquest3.iquest.net [209.43.20.203]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D591F15548 for ; Fri, 26 Mar 1999 02:29:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from toor@y.dyson.net) Received: (qmail 27429 invoked from network); 26 Mar 1999 10:28:45 -0000 Received: from dyson.iquest.net (HELO y.dyson.net) (198.70.144.127) by iquest3.iquest.net with SMTP; 26 Mar 1999 10:28:45 -0000 Received: (from toor@localhost) by y.dyson.net (8.9.3/8.9.1) id FAA00745; Fri, 26 Mar 1999 05:28:44 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199903261028.FAA00745@y.dyson.net> Subject: Re: FreeBSD emulation for linux In-Reply-To: <199903260234.TAA01443@usr09.primenet.com> from Terry Lambert at "Mar 26, 99 02:34:14 am" To: tlambert@primenet.com (Terry Lambert) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 05:28:44 -0500 (EST) Cc: wes@softweyr.com, tlambert@primenet.com, brett@peloton.physics.montana.edu, brett@lariat.org, jkh@zippy.cdrom.com, advocacy@freebsd.org From: "John S. Dyson" Reply-To: dyson@iquest.net X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL38 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Terry Lambert said: > > I understand. Now you are chasing the Linux ABI problem, which was my > point: the Linux ABI is fluid enough that you will have a hard time > saying that about two different Linux ditributions, let alone about > a FreeBSD implementing the ABI from a particular Linux distribution. > The problem is as hard as tracking Win32 unde OS/2. Look at how > long Linux threaded applications failed to run on FreeBSD. > Slightly off topic: FreeBSD isn't even able to run current NetBSD binaries (last time I checked.) Since FreeBSD and NetBSD are brothers (and not just cousins), one would think that FreeBSD would be able to keep up there. If Linux takes some odd directions in the future (which wouldn't surprise me), it is doubtful (with the current organization) that FreeBSD will keep up. The new, farther sighted marketing will tend to help give feedback to the core team and other developers, but such feedback has previously been errant or missing. It would be good to petition the -core team to listen to the marketing person, and not poo-poo him as others have been (both rightfully and wrongly.) It is easy to poo-poo ideas after it becomes a habit to do so. It is time for OPEN minds. -- John | Never try to teach a pig to sing, dyson@iquest.net | it makes one look stupid jdyson@nc.com | and it irritates the pig. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message